Fentanyl deaths everywhere

[sawfly1]

exactly all those pot smokers from the 70s are the business . owners, farmers , mayors etc. church members etc.
of today .

and there are always the examples of truly nuts folks that smoke ,
but they were all nuts before they smoked anyway.

Booze is way worse always has been .
never had to break up a fight between stoned people .
never saw a stoned girl beat on a cop.
but I have with drinkers.

I did smoke a fair bit , at one time . 25 years ago
but not my thing ,
just felt paranoid , and felt I had to brush my teeth a lot .





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[malleefarmer]

seen exact opposite sum.

Mines and construction sites zero tolerance to alcohol and dope ampetamines ice many other drugs instant dismissal, its law here and drug testing of drivers instant loss of liscence. As well as booze of course.

Our blood level is .05 for driving about 3 stubbies of beer in first hour and 1 every hour after. I play safe and drink low alc beer when out 3% alc.

Tongue in cheek if any of you guys have a beer with sask3 and his lovely wife rhonda beware you may not come out alive and have to camp over........works hard plays even harder

[grassfarmer]

Our blood level is .05 for driving about 3 stubbies of beer in first hour and 1 every hour after. I play safe and drink low alc beer when out 3% alc.

I thought everyone figured that out in the '90s Mallee - that's not very "low alcohol" beer in terms of being over the legal limit. Regular beer is 5%, the low alcohol version is 3% so not a big difference in terms of impairment.

[macdon02]

I used to think exact same Big Wheel, until my son and niece bout got opiod prescriptions from oral surgeon. There's a blind faith in healthcare that's causing a big portion off the issue. People don't naturally stick needles in their arms.

[the big wheel]

Yes good point mac, can't they come up with something better to prescribe?

But there still is the dealers on the street that aren't being dealt with. The argument to legalize marijuana was we can't police it so make it legal? So how the hell and what the hell is the difference when now it can be everywhere how are they going to police all these little rules.

You have to go straight home when purchasing ya like someone can't argue they got lost.

And what was it 4 plants per house or person? Who's going around counting? The sask power people maybe? Hahaha

But the saddest part is that kids now have been given the green light to think well hey if it's good for someone 18 or 19 why not now at 12. Absolutely stupid.

The problem with drugs is they don't do anything to the dealers when we catch them always was always will be.

[macdon02]

And risk cutting into big Pharma profits? Kickback to the prescribing Dr? Give the patient what they want and they'll be sure to come back .... I'm told the local dentists have black flags for certain patients that come on orders from the board as repeat solicitors for opiods but why not prescribe T3 or Advil. The belief life is painless is ridiculous. On the weed, well the job as a parent just got more difficult. One of the parents on my son's hockey team is rcmp and he said most breakin s go direct to the medicine cabinet. This is a huge issue and govt has no issue with lobbyists on behalf of drug co ..... I don't know the solution other then be the best damn parent you can be and get involved in their lives as much as possible. Maybe we need to pay full bore for healthcare?

[SASKFARMER3]

Thanks Mallee just being Canadian.

Little fun last night in calgary

[helmsdale]

I know several potheads - lifetime users, not much wrong with their minds nor their work ethics. I have never heard of them having an accident either. Many of them are old guys now. Back in 1968 LSD was the fentanyl at university. Some of the users and producers that I remember became big wigs. Go figure! But today the users, many very young, are dying in droves, people get hooked by taking pain killers. It’s sad. An article I read seemed to imply that certain people are just prone to become dependant but most of us are not at risk. If I end up in pain, there is no way in hell.

Our road maintenance and construction crews used to be full of stoners! There were some pretty shoddy construction jobs, but that could have just as easily been poor tech, or even poor engineering. I almost wish the Maintenance guys were allowed to roll doobs just like the good old days though. Some of our smoothest heavy equipment operators were stoned all day every day. Now our roads make everyone feel like they've got the shakes.

[sumdumguy]

Booze is way worse always has been .
never had to break up a fight between stoned people .
never saw a stoned girl beat on a cop.


I think that may have been a reason for not legalizing pot years ago. People will buy less booze, less provincial taxes. Booze has destroyed so many people and families. People say, “yeh, but Marijuana leads to escalating harder drug use”. Gotta say booze escalates also - occasional beer to binge drinking - harder liquor - solvents.

[malleefarmer]

Grass with lower alc beer i can go out have my 4 or 5 beers been tested heaps never a problem if the 4 or 5 were heavies id be over