Fentanyl deaths everywhere

[macdon02]

And risk cutting into big Pharma profits? Kickback to the prescribing Dr? Give the patient what they want and they'll be sure to come back .... I'm told the local dentists have black flags for certain patients that come on orders from the board as repeat solicitors for opiods but why not prescribe T3 or Advil. The belief life is painless is ridiculous. On the weed, well the job as a parent just got more difficult. One of the parents on my son's hockey team is rcmp and he said most breakin s go direct to the medicine cabinet. This is a huge issue and govt has no issue with lobbyists on behalf of drug co ..... I don't know the solution other then be the best damn parent you can be and get involved in their lives as much as possible. Maybe we need to pay full bore for healthcare?

[SASKFARMER3]

Thanks Mallee just being Canadian.

Little fun last night in calgary

[helmsdale]

I know several potheads - lifetime users, not much wrong with their minds nor their work ethics. I have never heard of them having an accident either. Many of them are old guys now. Back in 1968 LSD was the fentanyl at university. Some of the users and producers that I remember became big wigs. Go figure! But today the users, many very young, are dying in droves, people get hooked by taking pain killers. It’s sad. An article I read seemed to imply that certain people are just prone to become dependant but most of us are not at risk. If I end up in pain, there is no way in hell.

Our road maintenance and construction crews used to be full of stoners! There were some pretty shoddy construction jobs, but that could have just as easily been poor tech, or even poor engineering. I almost wish the Maintenance guys were allowed to roll doobs just like the good old days though. Some of our smoothest heavy equipment operators were stoned all day every day. Now our roads make everyone feel like they've got the shakes.

[sumdumguy]

Booze is way worse always has been .
never had to break up a fight between stoned people .
never saw a stoned girl beat on a cop.


I think that may have been a reason for not legalizing pot years ago. People will buy less booze, less provincial taxes. Booze has destroyed so many people and families. People say, “yeh, but Marijuana leads to escalating harder drug use”. Gotta say booze escalates also - occasional beer to binge drinking - harder liquor - solvents.

[malleefarmer]

Grass with lower alc beer i can go out have my 4 or 5 beers been tested heaps never a problem if the 4 or 5 were heavies id be over

[checking]

Has a helmet law, or a seat belt law, or driving under the influence law, really saved the life of anyone who goes out of the way to take unnecessary chances? And, isn't that what you are doing when you purchase street drugs?

I believe the smart person is going to figure it out, really, really quick, without the law, and the stupid person is going to have a difficult time surviving. Thank you, pharma, for the selection quote. It applies.

There can not be enough fentanyl deaths yet to pause the stupid people in our society. To that I say fentanyl strength needs to be raised to 100% effectiveness.

[WiltonRanch]

Has a helmet law, or a seat belt law, or driving under the influence law, really saved the life of anyone who goes out of the way to take unnecessary chances? And, isn't that what you are doing when you purchase street drugs?

I believe the smart person is going to figure it out, really, really quick, without the law, and the stupid person is going to have a difficult time surviving. Thank you, pharma, for the selection quote. It applies.

There can not be enough fentanyl deaths yet to pause the stupid people in our society. To that I say fentanyl strength needs to be raised to 100% effectiveness.

As Malthusian as we are getting here it’s sadly right. Think until one of our own gets into this crap we’d change our tune. Though from 30000 feet above it’s a “no duh” moment. Pisses me off at local health region office downtown in my local city. They have a safe injection site for the addicts pretty much the same place people bring babies for their shots. These buggers get free needles while my diabetic dad has to pay for his own.

[Casered]

After thought....food for thought. What lengths did employers, oil companies/pipeline construction companies/industrial construction companies/etc.... , go to to ensure their employees were clean....so before if you failed a piss test for pot you were fired?......now it's going to be ok because its legal? What's changed besides the law? Are users magically no longer a risk to their fellow workers? Hypocrites!

Klausterphobia.....you ever been piss tested? What's the new rules going forward going to be?

It’s up to the employer if cannabis will be allowed on the job site. Just like employees can get shit faced drunk every night after work show up hung over and thats legal too. And hungover employees are a much bigger risk to saftey than a guy who smoked a joint 3 days ago.

[Casered]

I know several potheads - lifetime users, not much wrong with their minds nor their work ethics. I have never heard of them having an accident either. Many of them are old guys now. Back in 1968 LSD was the fentanyl at university. Some of the users and producers that I remember became big wigs. Go figure! But today the users, many very young, are dying in droves, people get hooked by taking pain killers. It’s sad. An article I read seemed to imply that certain people are just prone to become dependant but most of us are not at risk. If I end up in pain, there is no way in hell.

Comparing lsd to fentanyl? That shows how little you know about this issue and drugs. Lsd is extremely safe compared to fentanly.

[Casered]

Has a helmet law, or a seat belt law, or driving under the influence law, really saved the life of anyone who goes out of the way to take unnecessary chances? And, isn't that what you are doing when you purchase street drugs?

I believe the smart person is going to figure it out, really, really quick, without the law, and the stupid person is going to have a difficult time surviving. Thank you, pharma, for the selection quote. It applies.

There can not be enough fentanyl deaths yet to pause the stupid people in our society. To that I say fentanyl strength needs to be raised to 100% effectiveness.

It’s true just look at all the stupid people who abuse alcohol. Alcohol is a hard drug and destroys more lives in canada than any other drug. People forget that as they kill their brain cells and liver for a good time.

[Casered]

Fentanyl is kind of a natural thinning of the herd.

Hopefully the “herd” doesn’t consist of your kids or family members.

[farmaholic]

It’s true just look at all the stupid people who abuse alcohol. Alcohol is a hard drug and destroys more lives in canada than any other drug. People forget that as they kill their brain cells and liver for a good time.

The problem with booze, if you think there's a problem, is it's socially acceptable and readily accessible. Other drug use has negative health affects as well so I don't completely buy that argument. Geez, when some pot users get bored with the high marijuana offers.....time for something else.

[Casered]

The problem with booze, if you think there's a problem, is it's socially acceptable and readily accessible. Other drug use has negative health affects as well so I don't completely buy that argument. Geez, when some pot users get bored with the high marijuana offers.....time for something else.

You don’t think there is a problem with booze? A lot of people drink like fish in small town sask near me. Almost everyone does it and a lot of people don’t really realize the damage it’s doing. Enough with the refer madness bullshit. There is no proof cannabis is a gateway drug. The same could be said for alcohol. Ever heroin addict had a beer first. Alcohol is more of a gateway drug than cannabis in my option. Enough hypocrisy if your going to condem cannabis you better not be a drinker.

[farmaholic]

You don’t think there is a problem with booze? A lot of people drink like fish in small town sask near me. Almost everyone does it and a lot of people don’t really realize the damage it’s doing. Enough with the refer madness bullshit. There is no proof cannabis is a gateway drug. The same could be said for alcohol. Ever heroin addict had a beer first. Alcohol is more of a gateway drug than cannabis in my option. Enough hypocrisy if your going to condem cannabis you better not be a drinker.

My point was it happens "more" with alcohol more because of the reasons I gave. And yes, there's problems out there with it. I don't disagree with your take on alcohol being considered a gateway drug either. But the refer madness reference is getting old. Obviously even governments, who promoted that mentality, have warmed up to it. And people's arguments about breaking up fights, people affected by booze or pot , have an element of truth. And the argument of the stoner with pot in his system from three days ago versus a severely hung over guy from the night before...good point. There are points to be made on both sides of the argument. Its not my job to convince anyone to accept my point of view on the issue. Maybe when pot has been legal and becomes more widely used because it's more accessible and socially acceptable, like alcohol, we will begin to see some of the social ills it has to offer.

We just spent decades trying to wean the public off tobacco, now it's ok to smoke pot, ya ya I know, no comparison right? But still seems a bit hypocritical to me.

[wmoebis]

Just read where there were 2 died in Maidstonè from suspected fentanyl od. Think we have bigger problem than we know about in small towns.