Just mean spirited or Are these actions of actual or Wannabe dictators

[oneoff]

There is always classic example for everything

When it comes to Conflict of Interest Disclosure; that moment for a particular council came very early in the period where the law was changed so there wasn't any "discretion" in reporting your private businesses and inter relationships that might be seen (or were) in Conflict with public business being conducted by council members.

I remember the former reeve couched comfortably in the reeve's chair; and his words that clearly conveyed to the sitting council members "that it would be a frosty day when he disclosed his personal business to anyone"


You get the attitude....don't you.

Is there any hope for some situations???????

[oneoff]

Repeat Sorry

[oneoff]

Pity that so few can even bring themselves to say the comments above are fake news. Because if it isn't fake news....then there are some real basic problems.

So just a little elaboration on the snippet

that "SOME THINGS ARE BEST SERVED COLD"

Like maybe Unions for your local RM.. Would you believe its as simple as employees meeting on neutral ground with a Union Representative at a place like Tim Hortons. Maybe ask Tim Probe for suggestions where the noisiest surroundings are. Its the gift that will keep giving and it will always be remembered why the formation by employees was necessary due to not being treated fairly by their council employers. Sorry that why there are unions; ie. bad employers and poor working conditions caused by micromanaging; 8 foremen and no idea how a councillor is to act on a day to day basis. Something about setting policy and hiring employees to carry out the resolutions, bylaws and policies. Then letting them do their job without interference.

A second course of a cold meal can consist of looking a councillor in the eye and repeating as many times as you please exactly what that councillor has admitted to in the recorded council minutes. Sure he can protest and claim its "defamatory" and "must stop" and will be met with legal action. But guess what; he's blowing smoke; has confessed; is guilty as self admitted and he's sorely mistaken and uninformed and deserves to be reminded for that which has not adequately (or ever) been advertised as a claimed "public apology" on two occasions. Its just a matter that the only persons who heard it were the council members; and the council minutes that are available for all the world to view.

Try to check that out....I'm sure not many are interested .

And given a little more thought I'm sure this list can be lengthened for the benefit of fence sitters; or those who would do anything to keep harmony under any situation and especially those who are served cold plates and won't eat what they are fed.

[burnt]

Council minutes - I'm sure you've read the minutes of a council meeting in which you sat in the gallery - how much did they actually reflect of what was said or discussed? Likely not more than a small fraction. So the clerk/sec/administrator can make the meeting appear to have been quite a bit different than it was.

I have seen it firsthand. I have for that reason asked that some specific wording, or whatever, be recorded in the minutes.

I am finding some consolation that the Law itself is set to protect the people. It's just a matter of learning it and how to apply it. How much time do you have...

Are you familiar with Black's Law Dictionary? If not, go there and start looking up definitions of the words that describe the type of violation that you are witnessing. (But how often do we know the proper term for what we are seeing?)

thelawdictionary.org thelawdictionary.org

For example - "misfeasance". Another is "malfeasance". Or try looking up "false". Or look up "malice".

We have our usual understanding of these terms, but the definition which operates in the legal world comes with a whole new connotation - one that carries weight in legal circles - i.e., courts.

For example, if a councilor or mayor has used their position wrongly, they will come to milk PDQ if you causally drop the term "misfeasance" into conversation. That is, if they have the intelligence to know what it means. You may have to broaden their understanding...

The system is very corrupt, from the top down, but the courts are there to help keep things in line.

[RD414]

You seem to be in a constant battle with your rm council but we have never heard what this is about one-off. Please enlighten us why the move was made to keep someone from bringing an issue up at every meeting. What is the issue. Name some names, I deal with 6 rms and do not see what your accusing your council with happening here. One reeve was on council for over 40 years. Well respected when he started and when he finished. Probably didn't make 80000 in the entire period, about 10 months wage for government bureaucrat today.

[TSIPP]

I'm sure a lot of agriville would like to hear the rest of the story. I keep hoping to hear what you're concerned about, maybe I missed something.

[oneoff]

Well here's your chance to see who "can handle the truth" as was said in that old movie. Remember these links are all to the Official Public Council Meeting Minutes; and as of Aug/11/2017 it became possible to direct any person in the world to those words validated by the very people who are responsible for every word contained in those documents.

There are inumerable issues that might be deemed worthy of exposure outside the Council Chamber. One was an instancethat touched a nerve that made a councillor claim that repeating the council records "Must stop"; "is defamatory" and "will lead to legal proceedings". Comments on that view would be appropriate.

But I will provide a direct link to the grand daddy of all examples of the most conflicts of interest in a little over half an hour of time. Think big...and wonder how one of all the council members couldn't see how they were willing accomplices in a secret totally inappropriate meeting involving multiple gross conflicts of interest.

Here goes

http://enniskillen.allnetmeetings.com/pubs/publicMinutes.aspx?minutesID=FCECA699-1778-4C40-B675-F7772CE4A363

The two sentences above Item 4.7 and continuing through Item 4.8 to where the motion is carried.


The "Easement Agreement(s)"referred to was drawn up by the "lawyer" (and of course solicitor/ client privilege means that advice may never see the light of day)....but the agreement surely was going to see lightare meant. By law all agreements are meant to be made available to any interested party as soon as they have been presented to council. But only if someone ensures it does indeed happen.

Well that battle was "won" after months of stonewalling; passage of council resolutions to "err on the side of caution" and a resolution 2017-458 that"the easement is not to be released to the public".

Each dear reader knows where to look and now knows how do it. At the end you also should not be able to say "this is fake news"

Item 6.4 of the 16/11/2017 minutes addresses your interest in further information.. I assure you that the administrator was doing what was required when the release of that document did occur a few months ago. You point out the resolution or directive; as I can't readily find it just now.

The motion to "place the Council minutes (effective Aug 11/2017)on the Enniskillen No.3 website); came about due to outside advice/pressure and hopefully 30 some years of lobbying for that simple accountability measure was also involved.

Well maybe not all the minutes; because its pretty evident the financial statements and cheques to Follow the Money are still missing from the adopted minutes..

As for the Easement Agreements; I did not give up; and they were eventually provided after most of a years hounding. It would have been so much easier if that which was going to happen; could have happened spontaneously.

Then this issue could have been brought to the ratepayers in a timely manner....without the worry of making an accusation that council wasted 30,000 dollars; and double paid on one easement both the agreed $10.00 full payment; as well as another 200 times that much after the project was completed.

I put this is a separate paragraph. If you look in fall minutes for a delegation that appeared before council; you will find that person's recommendation "That all 30,000 some dollars be paid back" That's in the minutes; but I assure everyone that council had zero intention of recollecting those inappropriate expenditures.

And finally now that council sees fit to break certain legal binding agreements; just what should stop ratepayers billing for payments never expected or received for materials used in rebuilding roads past their property in years past. Stay tuned for potential recommendations from jurisdictions such as the Ombudsman's office; nothing ca be done at the loacal level it seems.

And if this doesn't get some sort of outrage from a lot more people...just remember that Trump only needs to brainwash and dumb down another 10% and he might well be dictator for life. And so might your local RM politicians

At least Please "No Standing Ovations" at the Gormley evening. Somebody might get sick after a "perfectly good evening"

[burnt]

I'll take "C" for "wannabe dictators".

The Office of Ombudsman here in Ontario takes these matters very seriously, I've found.

It only takes one phone call...

[oneoff]

I'll take "C" for "wannabe dictators".

The Office of Ombudsman here in Ontario takes these matters very seriously, I've found.

It only takes one phone call...

I'm assured its at the stage of "consolidation with similar complaints" and "timelines for the investigative stage were being developed as of approx. 3 weeks ago"

[oneoff]

I'm assured its at the stage of "consolidation with similar complaints" and "timelines for the investigative stage were being developed as of approx. 3 weeks ago"

And that all requested information had been received.