Just mean spirited or Are these actions of actual or Wannabe dictators

[LEP]

A quick check shows posts regarding issues with your RM showing up on Agriville since mid 2012 at least. Almost 6 years. So I have to ask you how you plan to improve your education of the voting public in your RM. It appears your current method doesn't work.

Since that time there have been three possible elections to throw your hat into the ring. Apparently you have no intention of doing so.

In fact, I see that you prefer to whine, bitch, stir the pot and do nothing about it.

If you haven't converted the masses by now, it ain't happening. I vote we pass the hat a buy you a better satellite dish package for your entertainment.

[oneoff]

And I suspect that LEP may indeed part of the problems I have identified (By actual adopted municipal minute accounts). Indeed his council; when exposed may indeed be representative of poor judgement of the same kind.

[LEP]

So I think somewhere on here you said you have made hundreds of inquiries to the ombudsman, you contacted SARM, the auditor, the rm solicitor, written several letters to the RM council, mentioned things at meetings in the surrounding area and yet no groundswell of support to convince you to run.

Perhaps you are leading a parade of one.

[farmaholic]

In order to keep this thing smoldering I'll add this, our yearly tax notice package of the RM contains a condensed version of the financial statements. Also listed in that package was the yearly compensation for each division Councillor, but not for several years now. No one was getting rich in past. I suppose it's all available for public viewing in the minutes and full blown financial statements.

Our Reeve is a prudent no bullshit money man and has been said to be stingy. I still think the ratepayers of this RM are well served by Council.

Let's be careful not to use the same wide brush to paint all RMs the same color all at once.

[oneoff]

I suspect LEP is concerned that anyone has the raw data of adopted minutes and the ability and right to spread those public decisions in the first place. He believes (and is conveying to the readership) that there is no merit in attempting to change or mention any of "hundreds" of submissions I have supposedly made to the Ombudsman.

I would ask LEP directly ...if he were a member of a council that were about to vote on any of the matters I have brought forward....would he haveargued in the affirmative too...or would he even have cast even a dissenting vote in even one of those motions mentioned.

Also I could prove it's not a parade of one; and there are indeed a 1000 plus other complaints that I know of not one detail. All for the same reason. Not meant to know apparently..according to a whole lot of councils

[LEP]

I think I mentioned that I agree that councils shouldn't get health and dental benefits paid for by the taxpayer. But you keep throwing out that I must be trying to hide things. You comment without answering the real issue.

My point is you have valid concerns but aren't willing to take the logical action to try and correct it.

It isn't my fight to try and keep your council out of the trough. I deal with my own issues in my area. I am not elected by your ratepayers.

However, you have had several opportunities to take action on these concerns by running for councillor, yet choose not to. WHY??

Also if after all these enquiries to outside officials and agencies, why is there no action? Are they in on it as well? It is one big conspiracy??

[LEP]

In order to keep this thing smoldering I'll add this, our yearly tax notice package of the RM contains a condensed version of the financial statements. Also listed in that package was the yearly compensation for each division Councillor, but not for several years now. No one was getting rich in past. I suppose it's all available for public viewing in the minutes and full blown financial statements.

Our Reeve is a prudent no bullshit money man and has been said to be stingy. I still think the ratepayers of this RM are well served by Council.

Let's be careful not to use the same wide brush to paint all RMs the same color all at once.

For some reason ours doesn't disclose per diems and expenses anymore either. I am going to ask the question why. I am guessing it is a standardized format setout by the SARM or the Province.

I agree there are issues with some RM's and there are many that are well run. It is wrong to broad brush everyone.

[oneoff]

I wouldn't have ever disagreed with one word of your last post. Make the small concession that there are legitimate reasons for someone not to be seeking a council or reeveship seat at this time (and indeed in the past)...and we'd be have little to disagree with about in well run municipal administrations.

The electorate is key to moving forward where a council has lost its bearings. When people have tuned out and are content to not even hear of the issues (until their ox is gored); then the first matter at hand is to try to get people to the stage where they can make an informed decision. Those methods were scarce and dwindling in number until the days of "social media" and especially the ability to actually get a copy of the minutes without a cost or making yourself conspicuous to hostile council members. AND the recognition there are real serious conflict of interest problems by the provincial government. There were tens of pages of clarification directed to council members (52 pages I think; but apparently not specific enough to get desired results) on conflicts of interests and a monumental move forward to have the Ombudsman to have authority to handle municipal complaints in addition to their role that had been in place previously.

Just because no one sees no action immediately is a false assumption that no action is taking place. And just because someone may falsely wish that scrutiny is being directed in a hundred directions at the same time may be totally erroneous. Both in number and in accuracy.

I was once told that when out hunting with a bow and your "arrow container" may be full of "ammunition" (arrows)... doesn't mean the best course still isn't to take careful aim with one arrow and do the deed set upon. Such is the case with my single complaint to the Ombuds person; and I have dutifully kept the evidence in that file focused on that specific initial complaint. Months later I did launch a simple gross breach complaint when someone accidentally said some complaints are more complex in nature. We'll all see what happens (if anything)at the same time. I'm not prejudging; and someone who doesn't even know what the complaint was would be a fool to speculate on the outcome. You could however enlighten yourself on previous recommendation made on the Ombudsman's web site. At least one was rejected by the affected council...a whole lot like telling the judge to f***off.

It has been pointed out to me over a period of time (months) that this file is not forgotten...is moving forward but that doesn't frustrate me more than it should. I accept that there is much other work they have on their plate; ...and that there are similar complaints (from others with whom I have never heard of) which that complaints office may wish to consolidate in some way.

I am practicing PATIENCE and advise others to try to do the same before jumping to conclusions...and even advising to throw hats into a ring prematurely. Who knows; maybe that won't be necessary; but it is necessary to get the information out that is in the resolutions and bylaws. After all the minute a council engages the Commissioners...those $25,000 potential penalties (for both individuals and companies in this particular RM) become quite important. NOTE Typically the corporate penalty rate is set about two and a half times as large as for an individual's similar offence. Remember that one and check out if your RM comes down harder on typically larger corporate bodies.

[LEP]

Our general penalty bylaw is $25,000 max corporate and individual.

I wish you well in pursuit of justice.

I will say you are persistent.



Not trying to be sarcastic.

[RD414]

Hey One-off, if your still monitoring this thread, was wondering if you knew who one would contact, and what department would it be, on conflict of interest questions. I want to ask someone other than an administrator or rm elected officials.