Ducks Unlimited

[bucket]

We had DU come in to manage a valley with a series of lakes 30 years ago....promised the moon ....delivered nothing....now they want out and are leaving the stakeholders shit out of luck....they say they have no money....and won't put it back to where it was before they showed up....

I have to tell everyone here ....the PFRA had tremendous vision....it's too bad they were eliminated....had more value to conservation than anything DU has done....

But PFRA seen a better way because they looked at all opportunities not just conservation....

PFRA should be brought back

[bgmb]

Parsley, Best I can find is head office is in Memphis Tennessee. I assume they are after water and or oil. enlighten us further

[TSIPP]

Come on pars i's gots to knows, how bad could it be

[redleaf]

You really should take the time to find out the following:

Where DU's head office really is.

Who really funds DU

What your land really has that DU is so interested in.

Pars

Interesting questions. DU Canada gets a lot of funding from out of the country and a fair bit of government money as well. I think the obvious answer is they want to control water ..........????

Would be interested in knowing what you allude to with your questions.

[Sheepwheat]

Interesting questions. DU Canada gets a lot of funding from out of the country and a fair bit of government money as well. I think the obvious answer is they want to control water ..........????

Would be interested in knowing what you allude to with your questions.

Me too! Curious how accepting cash from their programs is evil somehow. Oh, your going to seed down land to hay? Here, we will share the seed costs, because nesting habitat in grain farming regions is scarce.

I read the fine print, and there is nothing sinister. They have no land control over me at all. Just an agreement to leave it seeded down for up to a decade, less if you wish. Du does not own much land anywhere near here, so maybe I am missing something?

[Partners]

They only buy land that farmers are willing to sell.
We sold them 120 acres of water..Never will be farmed..They paid all legal fees/sub division ..All surveying..We kept the 40 acres of high land for farming..They paid us the average rate in the RM which most is good quality farm land..Got the remaining 40 acres free...Bought it just before we sold it..Think we got a good deal..

[grassfarmer]

You've crossed over to the dark side sheepwheat not that you've animals and some grass LOL. We'll have the last laugh though when "conventional" farmers finally realise they can't beat mother nature despite killing all the wildlife, the trees, the grass, the soil biology and the water.

I think the concern is more with the conservation easements that DU likes farmers to sign up for - they put restrictions on land use in perpetuity and although they offer reasonable money I'm not convinced it's anything like enough given how long perpetuity is, plus you are getting it in today's $ which might look small 10 years from now. We have grass/bush quarters that we will never break or cultivate that would easily earn us $50,000 to put in a "no break, no drain" easement - on the face of it money for nothing but that perpetuity clause is the deal breaker. I think within 10-20 years there will be programs paying annual management fees to farmers to manage their land and they will be a better deal for farmers. Land with conservation easements on it can be tough to sell to a future buyer if you decide to sell the property some day - I know some people that have done that and found it cost them many times what their DU payments had been.
What Partners did with his quarter makes sense, probably better than putting it into a conservation agreement in the circumstances.

[bgmb]

Guys be very careful who you let onto you land. All I will say is read any contracts very closely and then take to a lawyer and get them to read it.

Grass nobody cares what you farm we are all farmers it's all great no matter how big or small or what you grow. Seems like you think you are the salt of the earth because you grow grass instead of grain I really dont see it that way I would say both have their pros and cons, some like grain some like cattle. Either way I wont lower myself to signing rights away on my property to a tricky tax payer funded American duck hunting group for a few pennies.

[Sheepwheat]

Guys be very careful who you let onto you land. All I will say is read any contracts very closely and then take to a lawyer and get them to read it.

Grass nobody cares what you farm we are all farmers it's all great no matter how big or small or what you grow. Seems like you think you are the salt of the earth because you grow grass instead of grain I really dont see it that way I would say both have their pros and cons, some like grain some like cattle. Either way I wont lower myself to signing rights away on my property to a tricky tax payer funded American duck hunting group for a few pennies.

I found it funny that no one even came on my land to see if I had established a forage. Must watch via satellite?

[burnt]

I found it funny that no one even came on my land to see if I had established a forage. Must watch via satellite?

Yup. You can run but you can't hide...

Bwahahahaaa!

[redleaf]

Interesting article from North Dakota.
Sorry you’ll have to copy and paste cause I don’t know how to make it a live link.


https://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/ducks-unlimited-north-dakota/

[grassfarmer]

The comments after the article are more interesting.