Grain Transport Backlog, APAS presentation to House of Commons

[AgrivilleAdmin]

[bucket]

Why is it so important to know how much he farms?


Its not about about the individual .....its about the size of the aggregate problem in Western Canada?

He didn't ask for :

1. When contracts are signed in February for September delivery ...the grain company can order the car and get schedules put in place.

2. No transparent sales reporting.

3. Vessel Reports

etc etc etc.

Its done in the states....why not here?

[farmaholic]

At least he realizes who us ultimately paying the freight.

Funny how us as the end user has to pay the freight in for anything we need or use, but we also have to pay the freight for the products we produce to port or even sometimes destination for the user of our products. How did we ever get to this position.

[bucket]

Just a guess here farmaholic but by people that think it's important that the only qualifier for sitting in front of a committee is the size of their farm....

[TASFarms]

Farmers need to charge the buyer 2% per month on an over due contract. And be enforced. That will get some action.

[wmoebis]

Farmers need to charge the buyer 2% per month on an over due contract. And be enforced. That will get some action.

I agree if farmers charged the same as suppliers charged for interest on over due accounts I think grain companies would soon find a home for contracted grain. Yes they are going to pass those costs back to farmers but at least it will be over time and farmers won't be behind the eight ball when bills are due!

IMHO that 3 month int free was a slap in farmers face.

[bucket]

How about the railways get paid after they do their work. ....

If you haul grain to an elevator with no cars beside it....cash up....the railways are paid before the grain is even settled in the elevator.....why?


Then if they don't pick up or deliver cars....charge them the 2 percent....

But in order for that all to happen you need sales and vessel data to be more public.....

[farming101]

Week 33 just past producer deliveries were the 7th highest numbers for this crop year
That should give the railways something to do

[sawfly1]

Suffering the effects of the backlog. Like everyone else.
Viterra nb .4 trains behind.. Barley contract,bags .will be plowing out the third time. Was told no more for 2-3. Weeks .
Then 3 days later has to be in Thurs. Friday. Friday blizzard. The terminal had pea orders switched to barley.
Not more cars just switched.

How anyone expects a market to work when delivery is whenever.
When you consider the costs. Just fix it. Train the army
To run trains . Or get them blowing holes in mountains.
Do something.

[wmoebis]

Suffering the effects of the backlog. Like everyone else.
Viterra nb .4 trains behind.. Barley contract,bags .will be plowing out the third time. Was told no more for 2-3. Weeks .
Then 3 days later has to be in Thurs. Friday. Friday blizzard. The terminal had pea orders switched to barley.
Not more cars just switched.

How anyone expects a market to work when delivery is whenever.
When you consider the costs. Just fix it. Train the army
To run trains . Or get them blowing holes in mountains.
Do something.

Might be some miss understanding here;

It isn't the grain company that tells RR where to spot cars only how many are available for the week. If they don't want your grain that isn't RR fault.

Second the RR doesn't tell the grain company what to put in the cars it is the grain companies that make that decision and can change those orders anytime.

[malleefarmer]

Common charge here for delayed delivery into domestic market and container market is $2.50 per month per tonne for cereals.

Sometimes its in the contract sometimes not but buyers do it regardless kind of a unwritten law/contract handshake agreement.

5 days late tough cookies full month is paid

[farming101]

It isn't the grain company that tells RR where to spot cars only how many are available for the week. If they don't want your grain that isn't RR fault.

Please rephrase or clarify

[wmoebis]

Please rephrase or clarify

Sorry! The RR tell each grain Co's how many cars are available for shipment each week, the grain Co's tell at which elev they want them spotted. The grain company loads them with what they want the RR don't tell them what to load. Changing what they load is the grain companies call not the RR.

What diff would the army make? If there is 2000 or 5000 cars available in a given week the grain companies would still tell them where to spot them and would still put what they want into them.

[farming101]

I'm not sure about that because the Ag Transport Coalition said for Week 32 that there were only 53% of the cars supplied that were ordered. But at the same time there were 125 cars that were supplied early.