Trump and farmers

[bucket]

Try getting this kind of support in Canada with the India tarrif on pulses.....


"""....To shield farmers from feeling the brunt of China’s tariff action, the Trump*administration is considering direct payments through the Commodity Credit Corporation analysts say.....""""""


Can't even think about it here in Canada for the short term pain with pulses.....

[SASKFARMER3]

Know we have an I D I O T playing a PM.

India kicked us in the nuts full bore and will come back with a second round of full blockage of our product.

We have a railroad system that totally screwed farmers in Canada all winter. Crushed us.

And not a word from that useless piece of skin.

It's sad but like I said before you sleep better when you finally realize in your farming carrier no one gives an F#$King shit about you MR Farmer, we may need you to make our Billions but your replaceable a new generation will fill your shoes and continue this bullshit.

It's sad really.

USA farmers will continue to live and feed people and the country will support them.

[Hopalong]

Think direct payments would be a step backwards in government assistance to agriculture.
As much as some despise them, present government subsidized risk management programs are preferable, especially from trade standpoint.

[SASKFARMER3]

Oh, yea in boy scout Canada lets worry about how well we do trading.

One of our main crops is killed thanks to political games in another country. We should have hit that useless country with everything.

Bang dead but farmers are supposed to pull up their bootstraps and continue and our PM pisses away billions to other useless and ill say it shit hole countries and his friends all for a seat in the UN.

Sad and farmers believe the bullshit.

[agstar77]

It is business. No one cares any more for your problems than a widget mftg. Sad commentary on the times.

[the big wheel]

Meanwhile USA farmers collect and are not negatively affected?

Sometimes fk the agreements if your getting screwed why is it we farmers are the ones that have to play nice?

He better hand out big time to the farmers they out him in and all his deals are sxrewing them and the common worker.

[SASKFARMER3]

I agree agstar with you but again if it was the liberal darling Bombardier wow open up to let it rip we have to continue to help.

Railways failed us this last winter, nothing.

PM failed us the last year nothing.

Trade groups failed us.

Not a peep.

To buy votes he Let illegals in with open arms from the USA wow how stupid is that

[agstar77]

You do not have enough votes. Not for the liberals or any other party. Those days are gone. You do not have the lobbyists of the rail companies. The grain companies are complicit since they can pass on the costs to you.There might have been a voice but you killed it.

[farmaholic]

Those business risk programs have to be at least effective and dependable with a hope responsiveness.....not like the Ag Stab of the last five years.

Or affordable at a reasonable level of coverage for the premium being paid.....unlike for first time entrants into them(crop insurance) with available reliable data from companion programs that could be used to assess the "insurer's" risk.

Blanket ad hoc funding seems to be a thing of the past. Focus seems to have somewhat shifted to individual need rather than treating everyone the same and making payments based on only units...... bushels or acres.

I guess AgInvest hardly fits that description....but is really only chump change in the grand scheme of things anyway.

[Hopalong]

Maybe Trump could take a look back at our populist Diefenbaker government of 1950s.
Brought in a direct payment to mollify disgruntled prairie farmers.
Was a dollar an acre to a maximum of $200.
Based on wheat board permit book cultivated acres.
Those were the days.

[bucket]

It's terribe to get money to pay bills when something unforeseeable happens. ...

CP and CN are guaranteed profits moving grain and they don't have to do their job.....and now union is talking about a strike....


Everyone makes a shit load of money off farmers ....I don't think a direct payment would stay in my account very long....that's the point. ...

[chuckChuck]

Why are you blaming our government for the US trade war with the China the worlds largest trading nation?

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-us-vs-china-economy/

So its Trudeau's fault that Trump is anti free trade and that China has become the worlds manufacturer? Consumers are in love with cheap Chinese products.

India put tariffs on pulse crops for their own internal political reasons. What about farmers support of support of supply management in this country? No government wants to give this up.

Do you really think Harper would have started cutting cheques to farmers because of a trade war?

I am not sure how you turn back the clock on low cost manufacturing and trade that has moved millions of jobs to Mexico, China etc? US GDP and wages are much higher.

What business wants to move their manufacturing back to a higher cost country and make less profit?

Are you guys in favour of an all out trade war? Because it seems like you support Trump no matter what he does even if it affects our markets.

[farmaholic]

You make a good point bucket, Ag Stab, how would it respond to the pulse price crash. As a whole farm program, how can it respond to the price decline, for last year's production, when we are on the verge of entering the next year's stabalization year, throw in cattle and it probably reduces those chances even more.

Did crop insurance adjust the base price option of coverage for red lentils?

[bucket]

Why are you blaming our government for the US trade war with the China the worlds largest trading nation?

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-us-vs-china-economy/

So its Trudeau's fault that Trump is anti free trade and that China has become the worlds manufacturer? Consumers are in love with cheap Chinese products.

India put tariffs on pulse crops for their own internal political reasons. What about farmers support of support of supply management in this country? No government wants to give this up.

Do you really think Harper would have started cutting cheques to farmers because of a trade war?

I am not sure how you turn back the clock on low cost manufacturing and trade that has moved millions of jobs to Mexico, China etc? US GDP and wages are much higher.

What business wants to move their manufacturing back to a higher cost country and make less profit?

Are you guys in favour of an all out trade war? Because it seems like you support Trump no matter what he does even if it affects our markets.

What if CP workers go out on strike?

What if every country only uses there own food?

What if countries quit buying guns and feeds it's people?

What if Trudeau supported Canadian farmers instead of third world dictators?

[SASKFARMER3]

Chuck wow I'm not talking about Trump because the American gov will protect its farmers.

I'm talking about a useless piece of skin we call a PM that has done nothing for the rail problems oil problems and India trade problems.

He is to busy flying around drinking smoking and enjoying dressing up like a real Leader.

Enough is enough.

We live in a country where farmers are nothing but a useless part of the economy that a lot of the economy needs to become rich.

That's reality.