Why aren't farmers as passionate about grain moving as oil??

[the big wheel]

It's not only the movement of oil and grains it's all the other issues as well
One sided contracts
Grain grading and price sxrewing
Price transparency
On and on and yet some are so involved to help the oil industry when they set their own prices they control governments and they need our help?
And no one wants to talk about the question when they get higher price is That the price we will pay?
On another thread oil well abandonment was brought up I wasn't aware it's that much money involved why isn't this talked about? If it isn't talked about do we know who is going to be on the hook to pay for it? I do!!!

[the big wheel]

Another question needs to be asked when the pipeline is built there will be expansion in that industry will there be enough royalty collected to pay for that expansion or is all the real money going to the companies out of the country and we ll all be left holding the bag and paying for the infrastructure building and maintaining. We ve already seen the door open now Alberta and Feds are going to pay for the pipeline I can see it. ( every one of us is gonna pay for it)
Is there a plan or is it like in saskatchewan where the provincial party puppets all were made millionaires and we were all left with pst increases and selling of everything not oil to pay for oil?
Is there actually a plan for
What's going to happen?

[farming101]

Then they should tell someone how to understand the report....because this started a long time ago....it started before winter...

Yes it did. Why did Grain Monitor employed by the federal gov't more or less say that things weren't too bad when KAP was ringing the alarm bell back in October? That didn't help

https://www.manitobacooperator.ca/news-opinion/news/unexpectedly-big-crop-moving-slower-than-last-year/ https://www.manitobacooperator.ca/news-opinion/news/unexpectedly-big-crop-moving-slower-than-last-year/

[SASKFARMER3]

One thing worries me is when you have week Gov like Alberta BC and Ottawa you have snap decisions and Nut case yesterday hinted they would build or supply the money. If I was an oil exec I would say was leaving and play the weak gov card.

With full intent to build.

That's just me as honestly we have the poorest leaders Canada has ever seen running provinces and the country.

Easy pickings when dealing with stupid people.

On the grain side, Ritz dropped the ball way back when.

The end of the wheat board was done wrong.

You are correct about things they needed to address.

[sawfly1]

sf3 Trudeau did the exact right thing in Humboldt.

he neither took center stage , he mourned and visited the injured

nor did he not show up at all.

either of which , you would have gone off the deep end for years about..
True

just shows you would find fault in what ever he did .

just as you will still find fault if Notley and Trudeau manage to build a pipline.
True


but no fault to be found with Harper's deregulation , and lack of transparency in
grain handling . you are willing to blame the puppet Ritz .
Ritz did exactly what his boss wanted. he did not drop the ball.
that was the plan .

and

a complete abdication of any responsibility in moving the country's products to market.
pretend fines . a total joke

hopefully someone in govt. some day will see this as national priority ,
and do something .

something, anything , would be a million times more than Harper ever did.
because look where we are at now

[burnt]

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something, anything , would be a million times more than Harper ever did.
because look where we are at now

That was hilarious, bordering on Bill Cosby kinda funny.

Because you just did exactly what you accuse SF3 of doing!


Blame Harper for everything, LOL!

Well guess what, sock puppet is "in charge" now - at least figuratively - and he'd better get his big girl panties on and take responsibility for what's happening now..

[SASKFARMER3]

Wow sawfly let’s blame Harper for the trees at end of road etc.

It’s your boy who is in charge and you can’t sit on the environmentalist side and be sticking with oil workers also.

One or the other and by the amount of oil coming into Quebec from off shore I think I know who’s side cry baby sits with.

No he was suppose to be out of the country for the next three weeks send a message would of worked for Me.

But turn the plane around pick up his son it was a photo opp. The people of Humboldt didn’t give him that option great on them.

Wake up he is all about the press.

Plus he cry’s at the drop of a hat 🧢 er every scripted thing why not at a real tragedy he’ll i had a tear remembering all the bus rides I did in my youth.

So let’s keep blaming Harper for **** ups mistakes.

Oh the liberal way!

[Oliver88]

This farmer is very passionate about moving oil!

..............IN PIPELINES!!!!!!

Great point, I thought this was obvious for all to catch onto but apparently it isn’t.

The oil will either move by rail or pipeline. Which one of these two options will be better for grain movement??

[Hopalong]

Used to hear talk of moving grain off prairies as livestock or other value added production, used to feed out cattle on own farm.
Even with grain handling and marketing dificulties, still a pretty good system, better than what we used to have.
Always room for improvement but who wants to go back?

[bucket]

Used to hear talk of moving grain off prairies as livestock or other value added production, used to feed out cattle on own farm.
Even with grain handling and marketing dificulties, still a pretty good system, better than what we used to have.
Always room for improvement but who wants to go back?

Same problems really nothing has changed.


There are not more grain cars, alberta and manitoba get served first in crisis...and the graincos have not made up for the 300000 tonne loss of churchill.


Pretty good system?????? Watch rocky mountain railway ,,,,,not much has changed in the mountains over 100 years. No additional tracks thru the mountains with their guaranteed profits...over the last 125 years.

Give it another 3 weeks when the conductors go out....

When I hear that my neighbour has trucks picking grain up in trucks to go to Abbotsford BC ...the system is 100% ****ed.