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sure you're correct here have a puff off this big fat one JT just rolled and tell us again how wonderful we are.
For everything, the liberals push they find Articles that look at all things to make them look good.
Reality is we had summers and winters like this in the past.
it has nothing to do with the world warming etc.
It will be a year that maybe no leaves till June and they will freeze in August and fall off.
Its Canada it's our climate and every year is different in some way.
I'll go with anything other than global warming because the climate in my half-century it hasn't changed.
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Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post[ATTACH]2809[/ATTACH]
Sea Ice measurements
For the last several years, I look daily at a wide range of communities weather forecasts in the arctic. I find it interesting, and I also like to reason. When I see dire forecasts for warming in the north, I cross reference it.
Guess what I find? Bs, and more bs. Rarely if ever does the actual weather up there match the narrative.
Just look for yourself, and stop assuming what you are fed is true. Again, I look DAILY. When they were panicking about the water on the North Pole, guess what the temperature at alert was? - 29C. It is nuts, and it is draining. People. Look for yourselves already.Last edited by Sheepwheat; Apr 12, 2018, 10:37.
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[I'll go with anything other than global warming because the climate in my half-century it hasn't changed.[/QUOTE]
lol
I love it when you present some real data how deniers fall back with their NIMBY answers and name calling. SK3 has been telling use for over a decade how the weather patterns have changed, how wet it was on his farm, etc, etc, but after one year of dry weather that there has been no climate change in a half century where he lives.
Or Sheepwheat knows the artic is not warming because he has checked temps in some artic communities and they are cold. Wow, minus 29C at Alert one day! One day, one community, is temperature, not climate. Now if the -29 was the monthly average for Alert and he compared that temp to the average same monthly temp for that community over the last 50 years and colder then maybe he would be worth listening to. But comparing it to anything but long term trends is not a picture of climate. By the way, I flew into Inuvik one time many years ago and it was in the -50Cs that day. Means no more than -29 at Alert.Last edited by dmlfarmer; Apr 12, 2018, 12:46.
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Excellent point sheepwheat. I like that you encourage us to do our own independant criticsl thinking. My younger farm helper is a firm believer in climate change. I dont spend much time discussing the issue because....well.... I am ignorant on the subject.
Similar to SF3, I have seen this kind if spring weather before l. I also recall far more bitter, extended cold snaps. I am a farmer and I can only work with the weather of the day/week/year. People have to understand that we do not control the weather, we manage our lives around (within?) the forecast. I do think that there has been good policies in
Your statement leaves with with the question where does a person find historical and recent weather records. There are times in the growing season I would like to know how hard it froze the night before. I struggle to find the previous day/night weather in my apps. Very strong odds I am lazy and not looking hard enough.
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Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post[I'll go with anything other than global warming because the climate in my half-century it hasn't changed.
I love it when you present some real data how deniers fall back with their NIMBY answers and name calling. SK3 has been telling use for over a decade how the weather patterns have changed, how wet it was on his farm, etc, etc, but after one year of dry weather that there has been no weather change in a half century where he lives.
Or Sheepwheat knows the artic is not warming because he has checked temps in some artic communities and they are cold. Wow, minus 29C at Alert one day! One day, one community, is temperature, not climate. Now if the -29 was the monthly average for Alert and he compared that temp to the average same monthly temp for that community over the last 50 years and colder then maybe he would be worth listening to. But comparing it to anything but long term trends is not a picture of climate. By the way, I flew into Inuvik one time many years ago and it was in the -50Cs that day. Means no more than -29 at Alert.[/QUOTE]
And my point flew up and over your head...
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Real facts Saskfarmer 3 and others who says there has been no climate change:
From Alberta Climate records:
Key Messages
•30 temperature indices and 15 precipitation indices were calculated for the period 1950 to 2010 for the Province of Alberta, including trend analysis with significance levels.
•Results provide a compelling picture of overall warming and changes of weather extremes.
•It could be confirmed that Alberta's climate is warming stronger than the global average.
•Annual average temperatures have increased by 1 - 2°C in the South, and by 2 - 4°C in the North, with winters showing the strongest warming (up to 8°C), and summer the weakest warming (often 1°C or less).
•Generally, and with few exceptions, the number of very cold days, when the minimum temperature falls below -10°C, has about halved across Alberta since the 1950s, and the number of heatwaves has roughly doubled.
•With the exception of regions with high elevations, snowfall is being replaced by rainfall (because of shorter winters).
•The growing season has lengthened by between 2 and 5 weeks per year.
•Energy requirements for heating have decreased by about 10%, but the energy requirements for cooling are increasing in the extreme south-east of the Province.
•The temperature trends reported here are likely to continue and accelerate, thus providing an indication of what we expect in the near future.
•Historical temperature records are no longer a true indicator for the future, and society must adapt to the new conditions.
Anyone who has flown over BC, AB, SK forests know the damage of mountain pine beetle and that a primary reason of the expansion of the beetle is we no longer have cold enough temps to kill the beetle https://www.unbc.ca/releases/2007/climate-change-and-mountain-pine-beetle https://www.unbc.ca/releases/2007/climate-change-and-mountain-pine-beetle
https://www.unbc.ca/releases/2007/climate-change-and-mountain-pine-beetle
From NOAA
Last edited by dmlfarmer; Apr 12, 2018, 12:48.
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DML just FYI I do believe in climate change, I believe it has always gone up and down.
Volcanoes,a trillion buffalo/gazillion codfish/and more passenger pigeons than we have now probably had an effect but more humans burning fossil fuels likely effect more.
But to think we're burning up the atmosphere is a little self aggrandizing. The sun is the architect of our atmosphere and is doing a good job of it.
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Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Postlol
And my point flew up and over your head...
And I agree that solar radiation and sunspots affect our weather, as does El Ninos and La Ninas. And so does volcanos and cosmic radiation. Science is clear these all affect weather. Most scientists also agree that man has an impact, including heat island effect from building cities, to fossil fuel use, to burning of forests for land use. To say that man is having no impact on climate is close minded and anti science. Science is not settled on how much of an effect we are having however.
There has all kinds of data showing the climate has warmed over the last century. It has not been a constant warming; nor would it expected to be given the impacts of natural phenonma on weather. However there is no question the world is warming. And science tells us that warming will cause impact is weather like the polar vortex slumping southward.
So my point was, instead of celebrating this cold spring as a sign that climate change is all a hoax, instead this may be the new normal because climate change is real and speeding up. Read some real science instead of blogs or denier websites.
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