For Liberals, legalizing pot is not enough!

[SASKFARMER3]

Minor amount not a problem hell grow 4 plants if you want but coke lsd heroine fu&ks people up. More possession and your s dealer nail them.

Also today’s drug dealer isn’t like when we were young they sell shit laced with all sorts of shit that can kill you.

Times changing but the liberals are screwing this ip also

Also starting to believe use in younger years wrecks brains look at your hero Trudeau

[checking]

I say go for legalization.

Just don't allow the relatives to sue the Canadian taxpayers for the round sum of $10,500,000.00 because the government of Canada was encouraging the process.

[macdon02]

Nobody in this govt has a sniff on how an economy functions and this'll prove it in spades. They view everything as through the eyes of a lawyer. Does anyone honestly believe that just because the law changes everyone using it will go to the govt store? Just an observation but the threat of jail doesn't seem to impede the people currently selling. There's zero leverage against a drug dealer dropping his price $5 under govt. Oh now we'll decriminalize it ... ok drug dealer don't care, he's currently willing to serve time to sell his product. It's like there's 10000 Tom4CWB's out there... (sorry Tom but your a good analogy) it simply won't turn into the windfall the govt is expecting because they passed a law. Nobody is gonna buy from "the man" when steady Eddy has been there for you through thick and thin. Lol govt is ****ing delirious. Watching behavior of govt these days is interesting to say the least. They are appealing to the 7 sins and every commandment. I don't practice religion but was raised on it. I do believe in being a good person and it's the relationships in life that give it purpose.... but it's almost comical that govt thinks if they can seduce the inner evil that person will vote for them.... and there are many that will. I hope that works out for both but I only see resentment and discontent building as it's never enough ... sitting around stoned or high with no job or purpose in life but a tool of govt. This won't end well. It's the productivity of the people that generates wealth in an economy or nation. Japan has zero resources yet people are extremely motivated that's led them where they are today

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I could support decriminalizing the use of drugs, not much to be gained by kicking the victims while they are down. But that has to go along with treating the dealers and manufacturers as the murderers that they are. Selling, distributing or manufacturing should be automatically considered first degree murder, since that is the end result far too often.

Someone had to get all those addicts addicted in the first place, many of them didn't even know what they were taking that got them hooked.

[burnt]

Speaking of stupid, the talk is of decrimilazing, not legalizing, does it make much difference if you have a criminal record or just a record of possession, we would probably save millions in court costs if it was decriminalized,
Forget your politics and look at the idea with an open mind.

Speaking of an open mind, has anyone looked at the cost of treating this problem as a "medical condition" rather than a high risk, self-harming choice?

Medical condition - ya - handy little diversion, if you can pull it off. Is there actually one moron out there that denies that it's the result of a deliberate, personal choice?

I have a family member whose experience in the Emergency department of a city hospital gives an irrefutable case for the sky-high cost of treating these systemic abusers.

The cost of admitting O.D.s, treating with Naloxone, monitoring and then releasing them was about $1,500.00 a pop.

Only to have the same perps show up within a short time to wash, rinse and repeat.

How many times should they get a chance?

And that doesn't even address the safety issues encountered when an out-of-control drug freak ends up in triage (enter cops...when they get finally there). Or the crazed woman who smeared her own feces all over the room she was locked in - doors, windows, walls - until sufficient help was rallied to deal with her drug-fueled raging. The necessary compassion and coping take one hell of a toll - and they abuse it!

How many health care dollars should be wasted on them, especially when it leaves a smaller slice of a limited pie for facilities and treatment of genuine medical conditions - osteopathics, oncology...

And you need not accuse me of having a tough attitude because I don't have anyone close to me with the problem - that dog won't hunt.

There are inexcusably long waiting lists for necessary surgery - why should one family member have to wait 18 months for a new hip because another soaks up healthcare $ because of her drug abuse?

And you want to talk about the "millions" saved in legal costs by decriminalizing it?

Forget your politics and look at the real costs with an open mind - if it's not clouded in a haze of drugs...

[farmaholic]

You just been "burnt"!

Lol...

[agstar77]

You just answered your own question. We have those problems and costs now along with the full prisons. Would it not be better to reduce the O.D. s and the confrontations with police and healthcare workers . Give them safe sites and monitor the drugs so they are not contaminated. No one said it would be easy. Provide treatment for those who can stop.

[sumdumguy]

Minor amount not a problem hell grow 4 plants if you want but coke lsd heroine fu&ks people up. More possession and your s dealer nail them.

Also today’s drug dealer isn’t like when we were young they sell shit laced with all sorts of shit that can kill you.

Times changing but the liberals are screwing this ip also

Also starting to believe use in younger years wrecks brains look at your hero Trudeau

I am glad to see Marijuana legalized and growing a few ok. I do know several people who are relaxed users-very intelligent and hard-working too, so I don’t know what to say SF3 except, I have no experience but maybe I would benefit. I love to see things grow, but a stinky like skunk plant - gotta plug my nose.

[GDR]

From what I here, the latest thing is knowingly pushing the Fentnyl limit by calling 911 then using the drugs knowing you are going to od and assuming the first responders will get there in time. Yikes I just don't get it.

[burnt]

You just answered your own question. We have those problems and costs now along with the full prisons. Would it not be better to reduce the O.D. s and the confrontations with police and healthcare workers . Give them safe sites and monitor the drugs so they are not contaminated. No one said it would be easy. Provide treatment for those who can stop.

From what I here, the latest thing is knowingly pushing the Fentnyl limit by calling 911 then using the drugs knowing you are going to od and assuming the first responders will get there in time. Yikes I just don't get it.

Well agstar77 indicates that we should just overlook this reckless behavior and suck up the costs.

As if we owe it to some to save their lives because of their chosen, willful irresponsibility while others pay for it and cannot access necessary, non-discretionary, legitimate health care.

Sure, it may be that "safe sites" (what a stupid, ill-chosen name - think about it) save some lives, but at whose cost?

It appears that a complete loss of objectivity is one of the fatal side effects of a socialist view?

Where does personal responsibility come in? If I want to drive 100 MPH all the time or run stop signs to save time, why shouldn't I be allowed to?

Can't have the death penalty for drug dealers (the cops know who these guys are), but we can let people die - both directly and indirectly - because of their activity?

What does it say about a society when it erodes or eliminates certain laws because they inconvenience some who flaunt those laws, to the detriment of all?

"Well, they're not following that law, so let's just strike it down?"

Why have any laws?

[Oliver88]

Burnt you have summarized what is wrong with our healthcare system, justice system and Liberal decision makers quite well.


It is shocking how naive some people can be with the concept of “safe-injection” sites. These same people will not have an issue with our long wait times for standard surgery and they definitely won’t be in favour of harsh penalties for drug dealers that our killing young people.

[beaverdam]

Notice chuckChuck doesn't defend this Liberal idea, only the global warming theory.
Has he ever commented on Justin's idea of having Canada's youth, growup and turn out to be like Justin's mother, messed up in the head, because of all the dope she smoked growing up in B.C. and her time with Mick, Keith, Charlie and Ronnie?