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    #71
    CaseIH or Burnt sorry for the error. In the end it doesn't matter you both read from the same playbook.

    Here is a question for all the carbon tax alarmists who believe that a carbon tax is going to kill the economy even though governments willing, it can be recycled back to consumers through other tax cuts.

    So oil prices are rising and fuel prices are rising. OPEC is content to ratchet them back up to $100 per barrel.

    So if a carbon tax increases the price of fuel and OPEC increases the price of fuel, won't the OPEC oil price increase kill the economy just like a carbon tax?

    If not why not?

    Keep in mind most Canadians are consumers not producers or oil workers and the benefits of higher oil prices are not shared equally and profits are siphoned off by executives, shareholders.

    Is this not a transfer of wealth from consumers to producers?

    Enjoy your higher fuel prices this spring courtesy of OPEC!

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      #72
      i know this is hard for some , carbon tax is added on top . it is added onto whatever the fuel price is . if its a buck a liter instead of 70 cents , its that much more . you see , its added on top of WHATEVER the fuel price is . we can't control the oil co's without govt's help , but we can get rid of these shysters, if we all work together and get the truth out there . AND A CARBON TAX WILL ACCLOMPLISH SFA
      ANYONE THAT THINKS 100% OF CARBON TAX IS COMING BACK TO PROVINCES IS MENTALLY DEFICIENT ??
      75% WILL BE SIPHONED OFF IN KEEBEK, OR LIBERAL LAND FOR ADMIN, AND TO CREATE FEDERAL LIBERAL FRIENDS JOBS . WAKE UP FFS
      Last edited by Guest; Apr 20, 2018, 07:48.

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        #73
        Ya chucky a tax makes it more expensive for the oil industry to operate. Infact virtually every business will be negatively affected. Except home security companies. Its a double whammy for the middle class. Not only do jobs dry up but consumer costs will rise substantially. More end up on social assistance and welfare. More end up homeless and yes crime rises as a result. Stagflation is already a reality but you guys really want it to accelerate. Its not going to be pretty.

        Be careful what you wish far!

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          #74
          Making America great is looking better and better all the time. Just travel the US and see what they are raving about - and it ain’t global warming BS.

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            #75
            What the socialists fail to understand about a carbon tax vs oil price increase, is that the oil Price increase applies equally to all of our competitors, While the carbon tax applies only to us and not our competitors. Most capital is mobile and will go to where It is taxed the least. If the carbon tax applied equally around the globe then I am all for it. But such basic laws of economics are lost on socialists , Who can't fathom that wealth redistribution Only serves to shrink the amount of wealth left to redistribute. But it sure looks good on paper.
            Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Apr 20, 2018, 20:44. Reason: spelling text to taxed

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              #76
              Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
              What the socialists fail to understand about a carbon tax vs oil price increase, is that the oil Price increase applies equally to all of our competitors, While the carbon tax applies only to us and not our competitors. Most capital is mobile and will go to where It is text the least. If the carbon tax applied equally around the globe then I am all for it. But such basic laws of economics are lost on socialists , Who can't fathom that wealth redistribution Only serves to shrink the amount of wealth left to redistribute. But it sure looks good on paper.
              Yup and there is not one “government “ official that going to pay the price . The taxpayers will pay their “expenses “ , why would they not support this scam.

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                #77
                Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                What the socialists fail to understand about a carbon tax vs oil price increase, is that the oil Price increase applies equally to all of our competitors, While the carbon tax applies only to us and not our competitors. Most capital is mobile and will go to where It is taxed the least. If the carbon tax applied equally around the globe then I am all for it. But such basic laws of economics are lost on socialists , Who can't fathom that wealth redistribution Only serves to shrink the amount of wealth left to redistribute. But it sure looks good on paper.
                With or without a carbon tax there is no level playing field in energy costs. Tax policy, currency, and other policy factors already have a significant impact on the varying energy costs around the world. Tax policy is only one factor in many that determines where production occurs. We have been at disadvantage to US producers for a long time because of higher fuel costs and lower subsidy and support levels for agriculture and many farmers seem to be doing very well here.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  With or without a carbon tax there is no level playing field in energy costs. Tax policy, currency, and other policy factors already have a significant impact on the varying energy costs around the world. Tax policy is only one factor in many that determines where production occurs. We have been at disadvantage to US producers for a long time because of higher fuel costs and lower subsidy and support levels for agriculture and many farmers seem to be doing very well here.
                  I think I follow your logic. Because we are at a disadvantage already, the best solution is to make it an even bigger disadvantage.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                    I think I follow your logic. Because we are at a disadvantage already, the best solution is to make it an even bigger disadvantage.
                    Makes perfect sense!

                    Until we can't sell anything, employ anyone, or feed, clothe, or heat ourselves.


                    Then we'll study what the heck went wrong.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Klause View Post
                      Makes perfect sense!

                      Until we can't sell anything, employ anyone, or feed, clothe, or heat ourselves.


                      Then we'll study what the heck went wrong.
                      But at least this studies will employ lots of liberals from eastern Canada For years to come. Eventually they will arrive at the predetermined outcome that it was not enough taxes that caused the problem.

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