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    #11
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    For a lot of consumers fuel still must be be pretty cheap considering lots of them still line up in their over sized 300 hp SUV to pickup a coffee at Tim Hortons with the engine running. Just imagine the amount of energy it takes to get one cup of coffee and a donut?

    Fuel guzzling pickup trucks are still selling briskly to people who don't need them, but have been sucked in by slick marketing.

    These are all indicators that energy is priced too low and is being used inappropriately.

    Some these same people wasting energy without a good reason are the ones complaining loudest about a carbon tax.
    Chuck2 in the Alberta governments 2018-2019 budget, the governing NDP stated that when the federally mandated increase of the carbon tax to $40 per tonne of C02 comes into effect in 2021, the extra $10 dollars over the $30 dollars per tonne applied under the Alberta climate leadership plan would be put into general revenue. And in 2022 when the tax reaches $50 a tonne, $20 dollars for every tonne will go into general revenue. My point is that the Alberta government admitted it is about the revenue and not the climate. The carbon tax is a politically popular way to increase taxes because voters feel good about this virtue signalling tax. Realistically, it will make Canadian businesses including farmers less competitive and push industry off shore. Imported oil, fertilizer, concrete powder, the list goes on and on, are not subject to a carbon tax and will undercut our domestic suppliers. Efficiency on the farm can only go so far in battling increased costs. Enjoy your day!

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      #12
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      For a lot of consumers fuel still must be be pretty cheap considering lots of them still line up in their over sized 300 hp SUV to pickup a coffee at Tim Hortons with the engine running. Just imagine the amount of energy it takes to get one cup of coffee and a donut?

      Fuel guzzling pickup trucks are still selling briskly to people who don't need them, but have been sucked in by slick marketing.

      These are all indicators that energy is priced too low and is being used inappropriately.

      Some these same people wasting energy without a good reason are the ones complaining loudest about a carbon tax.
      Thank you for your contribution, chucky!

      Because your words provided a classic example of Marxist doctrine - punish those who can enjoy the benefit of their labours.

      And in this case, the unfair or unjustifiable wealth transfer mechanism isn't even for the benefit of the poor because the tax actually injures the most those who can afford it the least.

      So there you have it folks - chucky once again demonstrating the effect of successful social engineering, formerly known as brain-washing.

      Historically, it is always the useful idiots who enable and enrich the elites (the jet-setting Climate Barbies or Jihadi Justins or Buttheads) in any system.

      So sad.

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        #13
        A carbon tax can be used to lower other taxes for low income consumers or anyone. The provinces can decide how they use it. If you are concerned about low income workers then the simplest thing is to increase the basic income tax exemption on low incomes.

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          #14
          Originally posted by burnt View Post
          Thank you for your contribution, chucky!

          Because your words provided a classic example of Marxist doctrine - punish those who can enjoy the benefit of their labours.

          And in this case, the unfair or unjustifiable wealth transfer mechanism isn't even for the benefit of the poor because the tax actually injures the most those who can afford it the least.

          So there you have it folks - chucky once again demonstrating the effect of successful social engineering, formerly known as brain-washing.

          Historically, it is always the useful idiots who enable and enrich the elites (the jet-setting Climate Barbies or Jihadi Justins or Buttheads) in any system.

          So sad.
          This isn't marxist doctrine its ****ing common sense which you seem to have little of!

          But perhaps you think it is a good idea to use a an expensive polluting finite resource such as oil because too many people are too lazy to walk to get a cup of coffee, let alone put some in a thermos for later.

          We have become a society of lazy and fat people.

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            #15
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            A carbon tax can be used to lower other taxes for low income consumers or anyone. The provinces can decide how they use it. If you are concerned about low income workers then the simplest thing is to increase the basic income tax exemption on low incomes.
            At least you are agreeing that it has nothing to do with CO2 emissions, and is strictly a wealth transfer tool.

            Just a new tool in the old Marxist toolbox, eh chucky?!

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              #16
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              This isn't marxist doctrine its ****ing common sense which you seem to have little of!

              But perhaps you think it is a good idea to use a an expensive polluting finite resource such as oil because too many people are too lazy to walk to get a cup of coffee, let alone put some in a thermos for later.

              We have become a society of lazy and fat people.
              You referring to fat, lazy people like your effing common sense climate hero, Leo, shown jetting to Coachella? "Climate-justify" this, dupe!

              https://twitter.com/dicapriofans/status/984956616322834432 https://twitter.com/dicapriofans/status/984956616322834432

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                #17
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                This isn't marxist doctrine its ****ing common sense which you seem to have little of!

                But perhaps you think it is a good idea to use a an expensive polluting finite resource such as oil because too many people are too lazy to walk to get a cup of coffee, let alone put some in a thermos for later.

                We have become a society of lazy and fat people.
                So for just a bit more to add to your "common sense" contribution - this, from Roy Green:

                "650,000. Number of barrels of oil imported into eastern Canada daily in 2016. Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Angola, Algeria key suppliers. Human & women's rights abusers. We could instead export Cdn oil & infuse $-billions into Cdn economy for everyone's benefit."

                So you support the continued abuse of human rights in Islamist countries by importing their oil. Meanwhile, our virtue-signalling, feminine PM sockboy, Butt's puppet deftly wrangles the end to pipeline-building that would market or supply our own fuel needs from our western oil resources.

                Yeah, I guess that's common sense to a Marxist like you, somehow, some way...

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  A carbon tax can be used to lower other taxes for low income consumers or anyone. The provinces can decide how they use it. If you are concerned about low income workers then the simplest thing is to increase the basic income tax exemption on low incomes.
                  I thought a carbon tax was being implemented to lower emissions not to lower other taxes? I pointed out what is actually happening in Alberta not some hypothetical nirvana! In Alberta it is obvious it is nothing but a tax grab!!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by burnt View Post
                    So for just a bit more to add to your "common sense" contribution - this, from Roy Green:

                    "650,000. Number of barrels of oil imported into eastern Canada daily in 2016. Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Angola, Algeria key suppliers. Human & women's rights abusers. We could instead export Cdn oil & infuse $-billions into Cdn economy for everyone's benefit."

                    So you support the continued abuse of human rights in Islamist countries by importing their oil. Meanwhile, our virtue-signalling, feminine PM sockboy, Butt's puppet deftly wrangles the end to pipeline-building that would market or supply our own fuel needs from our western oil resources.

                    Yeah, I guess that's common sense to a Marxist like you, somehow, some way...

                    one can really see the absurdity of it all, when it's put in print . guess this is good though, supporting the countries that kidnap and **** 10 year old girls , the person that is allowing this to happen should be locked up . and I wonder how the downstream carbon emission report would be on this "BLOOD OIL" . it's so ****ing stupid , you can't even make any sense out of it

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                      #20
                      bedroom communities around winterpeg still growing, SUVs driving 120 kph back and forth to work, then back to winterpeg at night for kids sports, movie, shopping. I think gas needs to go to 2.50/l before habits change.

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