Houston oil and gas on a slippery slope

[chuckChuck]

There's a lot of evidence ofdining off someone else's cake and expecting it to remain an endless supply.

The comment about never wanting to assume an oil company liability is the only way to approach someone else's potentially bottomless cleanup bill.
Now one knows how long or how extensive the cleanup can be.

It's also disingenuous to lap up all the gravy and near the end to complain about what is left. Remember you don't know whom the oil company asset owner will be tomorrow; and you certainly have no input into whom that might be.

Infrastructure is a necessity to any development. Those necessary gathering lines and well heads and processing plants are essential as long as everyone remains dependent on fossil fuel based transportation; steel and material production; power for refining and processing and people movement at all stages of an industrial based economy.

So be careful when taking the advice of hypocritical commentors who couldn't function without the existence of the fuel sources that they disparage.

...and of course promote some alternative that would currently immerse society in a shocking crisis if they practiced their proposals and required other more significant producers to change their ways immediately.

We are all currently dependent on oil and gas to fuel our economy, but that doesn't change the fact there are legitimate concerns about how the oil industry operates and what it does to cover the cost of cleaning up abandoned facilities.

Germany, Denmark and several other European countries have very significant amounts of renewable electricity sources , and bio-fuels. Are you suggesting that Germany the largest and strongest industrial economy in Europe is in crisis? Because you are wrong again.

[oneoff]

There have been times when I've wondered if the energy source change statements from eco energy promoters are coming from the same sources that once in a while admit that we are currently dependent on oil and gas to fuel our economy.

Wetern Canad is not Portugal nor some European country. Those who insinuate that we take someone else's lead are mostly wrong. They are definitely attempting to mislead and are most likely promoting self interests.

[chuckChuck]

There have been times when I've wondered if the energy source change statements from eco energy promoters are coming from the same sources that once in a while admit that we are currently dependent on oil and gas to fuel our economy.

Wetern Canad is not Portugal nor some European country. Those who insinuate that we take someone else's lead are mostly wrong. They are definitely attempting to mislead and are most likely promoting self interests.

Why do you assume that the world is so black and white? Perhaps it easier you to think in those terms?

Germany which I referenced is both a leader in renewable energy and dependent on fossil energy. This may be a novel concept for you, but it is possible to have both renewable energy sources and still be dependent on fossil energy supplies without creating a crisis or a contradiction.

You are correct in that European countries are quite different than Canada when it comes to our economies and energy needs. But we can learn from each other. Most of our democratic institutions, legal system, education system were based on European examples. So apparently we followed their lead on many things. So we must be misguided?

But why bring up Portugal when Norway has large supplies of fossil energy and is still moving to reduce dependence on fossil energy and reduce carbon emissions? This would be a more relevant comparison.

[oneoff]

When you or anyone demonstrates an on farm solar energy system to reliably and continuously run even one aeration fan at a time...I will be impressed. Until then quit promoting solar energy as the replacement for the Western Canadian energy needs.

Even if chuck understands we haven't even begun to bring enough such energy online to be significant; there's a whole crowd who doesn't even know where food originally comes from.

I don't see any of the climate change crowd ready to give up their entitlements; nor any recognition that not nearly everyone lives in a temperate climate (year round) that requires no or little supplemental heat; nor a recognition that fast transit is not an option; or even that freight subsidies might be an arguable topic.

Some stand to gain (or intend to gain) from a carbon tax; but someone else has to pay those bills and may well not be able to pass these costs along.

[chuckChuck]

There is no single solution to reduce carbon emissions. Solar is just one option in many to reduce carbon emissions.

Solar, wind, backed up by hydro, or natural gas would all be good options to reduce carbon emissions. SaskPower is investing in wind and solar and will hopefully start using more natural gas.

Canada has some of the largest renewable hydro resources in the world.

"Total electricity generation in Canada in 2015 was 635 terawatt hours. Hydro has the highest share of generation at 58.9%, followed by nuclear at 15%, coal at 9.6%, gas/oil/others at 10.6% and non-hydro renewables at 5.9%. ... Provincial electricity supply from hydroelectricity: Manitoba: 96.6%"

In Germany bio-gas electrical generation is part of many farms. There are a few examples in Canada of using animal manure bio-gas to make electricity.

So it is technically possible to use renewable energy system to run aeration fans continuously. Solar and hydro can be part of the system as well. All renewable forms.

You can even use an on farm natural gas generator for large loads, backup and solar if you want to go off the electrical grid!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

There is no single solution to reduce carbon emissions. Solar is just one option in many to reduce carbon emissions.

Solar, wind, backed up by hydro, or natural gas would all be good options to reduce carbon emissions. SaskPower is investing in wind and solar and will hopefully start using more natural gas.

Canada has some of the largest renewable hydro resources in the world.

"Total electricity generation in Canada in 2015 was 635 terawatt hours. Hydro has the highest share of generation at 58.9%, followed by nuclear at 15%, coal at 9.6%, gas/oil/others at 10.6% and non-hydro renewables at 5.9%. ... Provincial electricity supply from hydroelectricity: Manitoba: 96.6%"

In Germany bio-gas electrical generation is part of many farms. There are a few examples in Canada of using animal manure bio-gas to make electricity.

So it is technically possible to use renewable energy system to run aeration fans continuously. Solar and hydro can be part of the system as well. All renewable forms.

You can even use an on farm natural gas generator for large loads, backup and solar if you want to go off the electrical grid!

Hydro is a great renewable option, except that your green friends who oppose everything are dead set against Hydro. Just ask BC who had an election decided on the issue.

[chuckChuck]

Hydro is a great renewable option, except that your green friends who oppose everything are dead set against Hydro. Just ask BC who had an election decided on the issue.

It was the NDP Greens coalition government that decided that site C would go ahead. I think it is up to BC residents to make that decision.

We already have nearly 60 % of our electricity coming from hydro in Canada. So we have lots of options already.