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    Maybe Its time to Leave the Club! But what to do.

    Deere & Co. is planning to raise prices as the world’s biggest farm-machinery manufacturer is buffeted by rising costs for freight and raw materials.

    Trucking costs have been climbing in recent months in the U.S. amid a shortage of big-rig drivers, and fuel is becoming more expensive. Walmart Inc. said Thursday that increased transportation costs will probably be a headwind for the next few quarters. Also hitting Deere and other manufacturers is the recent increase in the cost of steel and aluminum.

    Rising expenses "are being addressed through a continued focus on structural cost reduction and future pricing actions," Chief Executive Officer Sam Allen said Friday in the company’s second-quarter earnings statement.

    Deere’s shares dropped as much as 3.3 percent in early trading in New York before moving higher. The company posted disappointing earnings per share, but also raised its forecast for full-year earnings. Allen said demand for both Deere’s signature green-and-yellow tractors and the company’s construction machinery is increasing globally.

    The CEO also said that said supply-chain bottlenecks, a problem in the preceding quarter, are now easing as the company works with suppliers to raise production levels.

    In Deere’s agricultural-equipment segment, demand is being driven by farmers replacing tractors and combines. An expanding global economy is lifting sales of construction machines. These cycles usually see multiple years of growth before there’s a peak, and they’re gaining steam, said Matt Arnold, an analyst at Edward Jones & Co.

    “It’s young,” Arnold said of the upward swing in agriculture machinery before Deere reported earnings. “It will gain momentum.”

    Deere posted net income per share of $3.67 the three months through April 29, up from $2.50 a year earlier. Excluding one-time tax-related adjustments, profit was $3.14 per share, trailing the $3.31 average of analysts’ estimates compiled by Bloomberg. The Moline, Illinois-based company said full-year net income, excluding one-time items, will be about $3.1 billion, compared with a previous projection of $2.85 billion. It also raised its projection for revenues from both agricultural and construction equipment. Shares of Deere rose 0.4 percent lower to $147.35 at 8:34 a.m. before the start of regular trading in New York.

    Yea lets increase the shit that already doubled to 700000 this year to a million stupid farmers will pay.

    F#$K You we will.

    Parts is another shit show with Super dealers.

    Regina had none in Warehouse and the local dealership had none but Super building in Yorkton Did.

    Drove an hour to get part that should have been at local it's that basic.

    Funny should have taken two since may as well start a parts farm store in a container at home with a new business model of Large Dealerships putting farmers time not worth a penny.

    But what to buy their all shit that depreciates to shit and break down.

    The auction sale is starting to look like a viable alternative. Let the BTOs purchase then buy at Richie brothers.

    Just saying its a shit show.

    #2
    The problem is if they raise prices 10, 20 ... 50% farmers will keep buying. To offset the higher machinery costs, farmers will look for more land, bid up rent and land prices, to justify their machinery purchases.

    We arent far away from a $1,000,000 JD combine, and $1,000,000 JD Quad Track, both of which will depreciate to scrap value after only 10 years. $2,000,000 in a well managed investment portfolio seems to be a wiser choice to me.

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      #3
      I still have my original 9520 it has 3200 hrs and the dealers always want it. It was loaded with right weights etc.

      Its paid for so why give it away for a new piece of shit that drives the same as the old piece of shit.

      yes money in Bank is way more important to a farm.

      hell one of the nicest crops in our area was seeded with a flexicoil 5000 just saying.

      Its all a scam.

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        #4
        Originally posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post
        I still have my original 9520 it has 3200 hrs and the dealers always want it. It was loaded with right weights etc.

        Its paid for so why give it away for a new piece of shit that drives the same as the old piece of shit.

        yes money in Bank is way more important to a farm.

        hell one of the nicest crops in our area was seeded with a flexicoil 5000 just saying.

        Its all a scam.
        thats why the old "junk" is bringing top dollar at auctions . would never part with the old 9270

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          #5
          Originally posted by caseih View Post
          thats why the old "junk" is bringing top dollar at auctions . would never part with the old 9270
          Same with our 9270 , over 8000 hrs . Using it to pull the planter this year .
          We did buy a new seat for it 2 years ago and a new set of tires at 7000hrs

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            #6
            Keep hoping for higher fuel prices it will destroy our economy in the west.

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              #7
              https://youtu.be/DFRuRoqLKZU and if the Fed " normalize " rates..... how's the million dollar combine or tractor gonna pencil out ? 10% will bite into profit and be tough to keep passing on cost increases.... especially if there's no bushels in years ahead due to cooling/ drought

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                #8
                No one needs new Machinery to farm. We have bought a few new pieces over the years a 3320 a seed cart and swather. The rest is quality used machinery. I'm glad my per acre cost is so low this year. My quad track has 2807 hours on it and it's running strong. And should be good for many more years. Yeah we have a few breakdowns but its worth it to not have a huge loan for shinny machinery. If new grew a better crop it might be worth it. But it's a rip off to buy new.

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                  #9
                  Careful Case.

                  Penny wise pound foolish can limit innovation, efficiency, productivity , and growth.

                  Then beer will do the same😀

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                    #10
                    It's what ever people choose to do with their own lives.No right or wrong answer.No rules to follow.
                    Some want to have a better auction sale in the end..

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Partners View Post
                      It's what ever people choose to do with their own lives.No right or wrong answer.No rules to follow.
                      Some want to have a better auction sale in the end..
                      Yup , every turn in the road is different

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                        #12
                        Yes, work life balance is healthiest.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rareearth View Post
                          Careful Case.

                          Penny wise pound foolish can limit innovation, efficiency, productivity , and growth.

                          Then beer will do the same😀
                          Why is growth so important? Why not being happy staying the same size? When we are looking at a crop faliure in a month's time without a rain new Machinery and $100 an acre rents are a big mistake. We aren't talking pennies we're talking millions in brand new Machinery that is not needed to farm.
                          Last edited by Casered; May 22, 2018, 14:22.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Partners View Post
                            It's what ever people choose to do with their own lives.No right or wrong answer.No rules to follow.
                            Some want to have a better auction sale in the end..
                            If a farm goes bankrupt beacuse of over spending that is a mistake in my eyes. Bad years happen in farming. Spending and borrowing pretending bad years won't happen is foolhardy.

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                              #15
                              TBW.

                              Sorry, bud, but it is only how you play the game.

                              I know of addicted gamblers that never lose a cent on their addiction. They bet equal amounts both ways.

                              Figure out how to offset high fuel prices, so it doesn't matter which way it goes.

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