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    #16
    Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
    'Change in culture' is the only way out, but voters must make this happen . . .
    There’s no way voters can make it happen under a party system. It will only change when enough people stand up and eliminate the party system by force

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      #17
      as governments run out of money to support and fund every liberal cause, how many years are we away when a tax will be placed on personal savings accounts and investment portolios? This would be on top of capital gains. my guess is 15 years or so.

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        #18
        Originally posted by MBgrower View Post
        as governments run out of money to support and fund every liberal cause, how many years are we away when a tax will be placed on personal savings accounts and investment portolios? This would be on top of capital gains. my guess is 15 years or so.
        15 years?

        Again, everyone loves an optimist!

        With our totalitarian-inclined PM in power, it could be more like 15 months.

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          #19
          Think about what farmers have... a farming culture, a community culture, skills, a work ethic, and respect from the country.
          These are the mportant assets; worth everything.

          We can change minds. Change directions. Change opportunities. Change attitudes. It's just that farmers have not consolidated their power, exploited it, or given a voice to it.

          We need strong leadership. We're not lacking strong leaders. We are lacking the strong leaders who don't step up.

          There are going to be some very hard times coming up. Prepare your minds for it. You have the strength but not the boldness. Yet.

          I've thought about the decline of the quality of Canadian leadership over the winter months.

          We need: Decency. Patriotism. Honor. Honesty. Focused.

          You have no idea who you are, folks. pars

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            #20
            One word .... DEFAULT !!!! Look on eBay you find all sorts of govt bonds that are only worth toilet paper status at best. Pension funds are loaded with them because they are "safe". (See 2008) "Normalized" interest rates will cause govt to default and they are normalizing because pensions are under funded due to low rates. Game over bitchz bye bye relying on govt to live. Crank the USD as every govt bond worldwide is priced in USD instead of loonies and watch them burn. Look at tbond chart, and short em with both fists. The solution to last problem is causation of the next. GOVT IS ****ING IDIOTS !!! Bonds are everything and the repercussion will be massive. Assets to the moon. Cash is not your friend
            Last edited by macdon02; May 24, 2018, 00:56.

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              #21
              Land is your friend. 🙂

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                #22
                Originally posted by parsley View Post
                Land is your friend. 🙂
                Not if the socialists have their way.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by parsley View Post
                  Land is your friend. 🙂
                  What are you going to do with land when no one can afford to buy your produce? At least you can hunt on it. Saw a bear last night headed into the bush NE of Edmonton.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                    Not if the socialists have their way.
                    I don't think Farmers in western Canada will ever entertain landbanks again.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by ajl View Post
                      What are you going to do with land when no one can afford to buy your produce? At least you can hunt on it. Saw a bear last night headed into the bush NE of Edmonton.
                      You can grow food. The ways things are going, there will be mass violence in the cities in Canada, with chilldren afraid to leave their homes.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by parsley View Post
                        Land is your friend. 🙂
                        Well, sorta, in a prickly sorta way_

                        Jeff Bogaerts from the latest “Landowner” magazine: “A trendy new phrase is the ‘Natural Heritage System’ or in layman’s terms, you own the land, pay the mortgage and taxes, but government tells you what you can and cannot do with your land. Neat trick, eh? I do not have to own something to control it. I just need to scare the pants off you with threats of monetary fines or imprisonment or both… the Conversation Authority Act provides for fines up to $10,000 per charge and 3 months in prison. Is this the kind of power and control you are willing to freely give to your government and elected officials?”

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                          #27
                          In Saskatchewan, burnt, many municipalities were told land owners had to start paying a portion of the education tax. School tax. Farmers individually grumbled. And paid. The tax rose. Farmers paid. Councillors noticed it and noted it and watched it grow. In our municipality, the tax portion rose to 80% that went to the prov Govt to pay for teachers raises and building schools, well, ed costs. Farmers had no representation at Teacher/Govt negotiations. Just there to pay the bills.

                          We formed a committee. And called the prov Ed reps to a town hall meeting. I took official notes. Rural Councillers from diff municipalities were noticeably present. We politely brownbeat the Govt. at all diff. Municipality meetings.

                          Moral of the story: levy decreased in every municipality.

                          Hand-wringing was not effective with Govt slicks. Organized confrontation is. Pars
                          Last edited by parsley; May 24, 2018, 09:54.

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                            #28
                            Moral of the story from lessons learned:

                            -organized
                            -proactive
                            -need to do list
                            -watch list
                            -farmers
                            -power
                            In this day of conf calls, there is no driving.

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                              #29
                              It is encouraging to hear accounts like that. It means that when things got bad enough, it was possible to find enough people to organize into an effective body.

                              What we - a small group of concerned and motivated individuals - have encountered here is that everyone appreciates the effort we put into effecting change, but very few will actually join into the actual work required.

                              Too busy, too "unqualified", too invested in the status quo...a thousand and one excuses. "But keep up the good work", they say.

                              Which could mean several things - not well enough organized, situation is not bad enough yet, those who are affected do not understand the extent of the in jury they will suffer, etc.

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                                #30
                                I should add that if was municipalities south of us that put the initial grunt work into it. Good stalwart men. We were the copy cat responders.

                                Farmers influence one another. pars

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