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[the big wheel]

Not one party gives a shit about agriculture''s primary producers. ....now if you are talking about the leeches supplting farmers ...well....that's a whole another story....


1. Morris industries got millions.
2. R & D never is short.
3. Churchill on a steady drip with never becoming viable due to graincos interference.
4. P &H got millions for down east milling.

5. CPP bailed out emsley.


The list goes on but primary producers that feed them all get their margins whittled down every time. ...

Isn't that the truth and add a whole lot more. And people look at farmers cross eyed when they have financial troubles they are considered poor managers loosers etc. Others scam the system use our money from taxes and are the cornerstone of ag according to the gormley s of the world who know jack shut about what's going on.

[bucket]

I will say this again.Input capital was condoned by both the NDP and saskparty governments..... they are fully backed or have the support of MLAs....so nothing serious will happen to input .....it will make too many look corrupt in both parties.....

The mafia always have their bases covered.

[FarmJunkie]

Agree Chuck! Great grandparents came here to be their own boss.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

One has to wonder how many of these mega farms are in trouble? Most of them cant get that big without a lot of money from somebody else. When they start using one sided, complicated lending organizations they are likely already in trouble and should be downsizing into a viable operation.

The question I have is why aren't governments supporting smaller and medium sized farms with good lending policy and supports that encourages more farms instead of these giant ego driven empires?

More average sized farms would make our struggling rural communities more viable and keep more young people directly involved and likely make for more stable and sustainable farms.

We don't really need giant farms owned by one family or corporation that could be independently farmed by 20 families.

Didn't a lot of our ancestors leave the old country because the landed gentry owned all the land and there was no opportunities? Seems like we are headed back to same old problem where a few rich landowners control all the land.

Could it be that the reason why predatory lendors such as this exist and are targeting large farms, and the Ritchie Bros catalogue is full of them is that the government policies are working, and are not supporting large farms? We are very small by grain farm standards( big by local standards), and are quite profitable. As much as I disagree with massive farms, I really don't see how you legislate them out of existence without a lot of collateral damage. Looks to me like the free market is solving the issue itself.

[macdon02]

https://mcmillan.ca/mobile/showpublication.aspx?show=100312 well I have to admit I didn't realize it took 60% interest rate to be considered "criminal". Noticed Bell Canada is at 43%/yr. If govt wants to proclaim that it's helping the poor this is a fine place to start..... rather then serving the too big to fail banks/ finance cos with today's BOC rate

[the big wheel]

Could it be that the reason why predatory lendors such as this exist and are targeting large farms, and the Ritchie Bros catalogue is full of them is that the government policies are working, and are not supporting large farms? We are very small by grain farm standards( big by local standards), and are quite profitable. As much as I disagree with massive farms, I really don't see how you legislate them out of existence without a lot of collateral damage. Looks to me like the free market is solving the issue itself.

The large farms exist for many reasons I couldn't get finances unless I expanded its worked well so but a couple bad years that could change.
But the big farms obviously took over small farms some of which were retireees but most of what I took over was because banks and FCC would not give input loans to put crops in. And some guys weren't that bad of shape just had a bad year or two and cash flow disappeared.

There is a lot more trouble on the farm than many want to admit because it would be an admittance that the farm programs only work for the scammers.

I think people like input know the farm programs are a joke so why not offer easy credit knowing that if you charge crazy interest chances of owning the land are very good for input. I also wonder if this isn't all ties to Chinese eventually owning the land. Just my thoughts on that.

The real problem exists with the shirty programs and the total failure of normal lending institutions to recognize farm situations require differnt help at times.

[FarmJunkie]

Just thinning the herd. Happened in the cattle industry with BSE. Never hear a word about the wealth they stole or the scam they used to depress prices.

[Rareearth]

Carefull what you wish for, the unintended consequences.

Are you guys suggesting more colonies? Whats Better and worse?

[bucket]

Thats who Lingenfelter had picked for the ag industry in Saskatchewan.....some of the reason he got booted...

He would be visiting the colonies pretty often.

[GOODRUM]

My daughter has completed her first year of ag at the U os S. She has mentioned that one of the professors opinions on the future scale of ag is if your struggling in the least you are not big enough. If you want to be successful you need to expand or quit and work for a large company.
This is the thing they are teaching a first year ag student? When I heard this my heart sank, we are paying tuition expecting her to build on her intelligence and get more knowledge so she can build a better life for herself, of course there is struggles in anything and if I would have thrown in the towel at the first bump in the road she would not have been exposed to the ag industry and wouldnt have developed an interest in pursuing it. This is where the herding starts, first year of university the direction is towards big business and finding a box to fit in. So this old guy has to point out that the lady professor doesnt really speak for the grassroots portion of ag. This way of thinking is not what settled this country .