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QUESTION: In 2018, In Acres, What is a Small, Medium, Large and Mega Farm

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    #13
    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    The answer would have to measured gross sales rather than physical size.
    Better still measure net returns - the rest is just fluff.


    Originally posted by fjlip View Post
    .... Life is short, most important is be happy with less and perhaps simpler lives. Soon to cash out here, 50 years went by FAST.
    Good advice fjlip!

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      #14
      Isn’t bigger always better? I know of some farms that arent “farms” anymore. I do admire one of them in what they’ve done but really what’s the point? When is enough, enough? Yes the work gets done but when do you enjoy what you are working for? These operations take an army of men, I have a hard time getting decent guys and couldn’t imagine what these guys go through. To me it’s a headache!! But, neighbours of mine who farm small acres would say same about me.
      Each to their own but there’s just not enough in it to have a bigger headache.

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        #15
        Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
        Better still measure net returns - the rest is just fluff.



        I know a guy with 800 acres, who probably nets more than many guys with 8000 acres. Gross means nothing. It is all about the net. How you arrive there is up to you. No cookie cutter in farming.

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          #16
          Congratulations FJLIP on 50 years! You have seen a lot and probably have the most valuable thing time can give you....Experience.....and yes time goes fast...30 years for me this year.

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            #17
            Big difference in location to answer that question. Some areas have fields that are square and whole sections, some places a 100 acre field would be considered big. Some dryland that is suited well for no till, other areas conventional tillage and multiple passes is a must. Some areas have shorter growing seasons but more importantly shorter harvest windows. Some guys do everything some guys get custom help. No easy answer. We seed 1250ac and have 75 cows and 50 ewes, grow all our own feed and do everything ourselves, Wife and I. We are maxed out with that here, but think that would still keep us in the small farm category. Always wonder the economics of the larger guys, can't imagine net dollars to be much different after the labour and machinery costs, may be more or less stress depending how you look at it.

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              #18
              Originally posted by bucket View Post
              In the seventies when there were lots of farms around here.....there was softball....community...tournaments...etc. ....now it's just desolate and isolated...

              But it's easier to see how it happens now looking back....

              And it continues to this day...

              Mega farms just create transient workers....after watching the trend for 30 years ....I would rather see 5 -150 or 10- 75cow herds than one 750 cattle operation.......

              Better community.....
              Agree with that.

              I know farming is a business but sometimes wish the true business crowd would stay out of farming, not the same atmosphere of the family farm anymore. More and more farmers not living on the farm anymore too.

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                #19
                Reality is its one tough game.

                We have for every three quarters two are owned. I would like to get three but with land prices, I'm done buying. More profit buying Oil stocks on down days etc.

                I do live in the city and drive out which has its advantages and disadvantages. You're the parts courier for lots of people other than the farm.

                But the house prices in the city compared to what a farm home is are quite a way apart. Better investment.

                Funny at the end of the Day you get the same plot of land or your ashes are spread on your farm (Hawaii) and someone else moves on it and continues.

                We grow food and its the only occupation every one needs but no one really wants to pay 2018 prices for it. Sad really.

                37 th. crop this year not sure ill go to 50 but congratulations.

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                  #20
                  "Here" operations around 1000 ac are on the smaller end of the spectrum. Lots in the 2000-4000 and in the 8000-12000 would be considered BTOs. Here almost all farms do a good job so they should be making money there are some gongshows though. Large farms are not so large they cant manage things and all do a good job.

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                    #21
                    Above all good comments.

                    Another half cup full way to look at things,
                    - good health and wellness
                    - good family
                    - wouldn’t change anything, but a lot of woulda, coulda, shoulda

                    - only 3 harvests left
                    -etc

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                      #22
                      Biggest question facing a lot of large farms including our own is how to effectivfly transition to the next generation. My son at 22 is yet to determine what he is comfortable with in his role on the farm and I realize how unfair it is to place my expectations upon him. I firmly believe that any success we've achieved is a result of being a good team with most importantly my wife. It seems to me that his generation isn't as enthusiastic or driven to take on the challenges that my wife and I did at that age and I can understand and respect that position. At 55 my wife and I are considering our exit plan from the ag life and believe that it is vitally important that our children initiate their own opportunities to build something for themselves which gives them there best chance of success. We recognize the mistakes that we have made in perhaps being over generous to our children at times which can be difficult not to do when your in that position. Our hopes are that we can contribute to what may be a more balanced life in agriculture then maybe what we've had.

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                        #23
                        Just by the numbers nowadays... less than 5000 , small
                        5000 -10,000 medium
                        10,000 to 50,000 large
                        Over 50,000 get a Trumps Mega Hat

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                          #24
                          Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                          Just by the numbers nowadays... less than 5000 , small
                          5000 -10,000 medium
                          10,000 to 50,000 large
                          Over 50,000 get a Trumps Mega Hat
                          Guess we are infinitesimal... yesterdays farmers, going extinct...rarearth you must have an exit timetable, good for you count them down.
                          Last edited by fjlip; Jun 3, 2018, 13:57.

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