Supply Management or NO DEAL

[WiltonRanch]

Even if Canada is willing to sacrifice NAFTA to save supply management, it doesn't mean the tariffs go away. In fact they could go higher. How long would Fiat and GM keep plants open in Canada if there is a 300% tariff against their auto exports to the US?

How many angry autoworkers are the equivalent number compared to angry French cow tit-pullers?

Trump has figured it out. Make life miserable for 'them' and they will roll over, eventually.

Think my point was if we got rid of supply management I don’t think it would do much in the long term for trade. Still think supply management days are numbered.

[sumdumguy]

Let Justin keep poking the bear, it ain’t gonna be pretty.

[SASKFARMER3]

Dairy is vote getter and that’s all. Then they sell out and pay us peanuts for land in sask. BTO,s.

Yes your married to your cows it’s hard work etc but grain and livestock was thrown under the bus to keep dairy healthy.

Trudeau thinks he is so smart and that’s the biggest problem. He isn’t.

Trump is tired of the USA been screwed over and over by others because their the big dog of the world. Well he wants that title back with wealth and money and jobs for Americans. F$&k the rest attitude.

Canada needed to play ball and not side with France etc. But no our girl decided she was going to show the USA she tougher.

This isn’t going to end well for Canadians and even us western grain farmers. Most of my #1 HRS went to USA last year we need to play nice.

Plus the Canadian media laugh at trump and you think he doesn’t watch Canadian TV.

Like I said this isn’t going to end well .

Plus Trudeau pledges money that’s borrowed for every world cause and forgets about jobs and his own people.

We’re screwed.

[farmaholic]

SF3, I disagree on the vote thing, too few to carry any political weight. (Spraying this a.m.? Lol)

Everyone else:

The Supply Managed model is enviable, "produce a product at a profit, guaranteed. Simple. Like just about every other business except non supply managed Ag production.

So what's the problem? If I can't have it you can't either?

[dmlfarmer]

Why is there no outrage over the US30 billion in direct subsidies the US government provides annually to its farmers? Subsides achieve the same goal as tariffs. So why if you feel Canada should give up the dairy tariffs are we also not demanding the US give up its ag subsidies? Real free trade can only happen without both tariffs and subsidies.

[SASKFARMER3]

Most of that is food stamps.

But your right and if we had a PM with a set of balls you smooze trump not mock him and become his friend. Yes maybe supply managed Dairy gets the axe but you then take the Americans on with how they help farmers. Negotiate a deal not play in the sandbox with his boyfriend from France.

Justin steps away from the Crack Pipe and become a leader or call an election and get this game going.

Ralphy boy you were at Globe the other night with your family it was a great play but you seemed in another place. Maybe retire and enjoy life instead of going down with the Great JT.

Retire already gracefully before your blasted at election time.

Wascana is not going to give you a free ride this time. Your Done.

[dmlfarmer]

Most of that is food stamps.

But your right and if we had a PM with a set of balls you smooze trump not mock him and become his friend. Yes maybe supply managed Dairy gets the axe but you then take the Americans on with how they help farmers. Negotiate a deal not play in the sandbox with his boyfriend from France.

Justin steps away from the Crack Pipe and become a leader or call an election and get this game going.

Ralphy boy you were at Globe the other night with your family it was a great play but you seemed in another place. Maybe retire and enjoy life instead of going down with the Great JT.

Retire already gracefully before your blasted at election time.

Wascana is not going to give you a free ride this time. Your Done.

BS! The SNAP program costs over $70 billion a year and this is over and above the $30 billion of direct farm subsidization. For example, subsidization of US farm insurance is 8 billion a year, ARC 4 billion, PLC 4 billion, conservation set asides payments 5 billion, disaster payments 2 billion, research programs 3 billions etc etc. Talk about weak, Canadian farmers like SK3 won't admit the amount US subsidies agriculture let alone call out the US their unfair trade practices like subsidization yet are more than willing to throw fellow Canadian farmers under the bus because of misleading tariff claims by Trump!

[SASKFARMER3]

oh, you'll huff and have a heart attack.

Calm down.

We are lead by a weak pathetic Prick. That's it not political couldn't care if he had a backbone i would respect him but our leader Trudeau is an idiot I'm sorry to offend you but he is not very bright.

The USA is the number one place people want to go want to get rich want to make money.

We need the USA and since were run by a weak pathetic idiot how well do you think our gender equal 109 gender-free loving country, letting in every freeloader is going to do going up against the USA.

We needed leadership to play trump and negotiate not play leader like Trudeau is doing.

He aligned himself with his French Boyfriend and thought they would take on trump.

Well, he screwed up.

Yes the USA has subsidies on everything but the big dog can get away with keeping the bone and the Reserve mut will have to wait for the scraps.

Real simple how to deal with Trump and JT screwed up real bad.

Let's blame Harper and all will go away.


Liberals wake up your idiot is an Idiot.

[MBgrower]

BS! The SNAP program costs over $70 billion a year and this is over and above the $30 billion of direct farm subsidization. For example, subsidization of US farm insurance is 8 billion a year, ARC 4 billion, PLC 4 billion, conservation set asides payments 5 billion, disaster payments 2 billion, research programs 3 billions etc etc. Talk about weak, Canadian farmers like SK3 won't admit the amount US subsidies agriculture let alone call out the US their unfair trade practices like subsidization yet are more than willing to throw fellow Canadian farmers under the bus because of misleading tariff claims by Trump!

I'm no fan of supply mgnt however, I agree with others that we need to remind the American public that USA farmers are highly subsidized direct and largely indirectly by the US govt. It has been proven that usa dairy producers, received the majority of their income from the usa tax payer, and not from the market. Also, what would the price of corn be in the USA if not for govt support for ethanol?

[sumdumguy]

The US may subsidize its farmers but big wealth on US farms is not evident when you drive around and see their buildings and machinery. But dml, I agree, put everything on the table, farm subsidies included.

[Horse]

I don't have a problem with the dairy man getting a fair price for his lab or and investment, but there is no way in he'll the inflated price of quota should be factored in to the price of milk.
Why is there a quota in the first place ? It is so profitable that they would over produce a d we will be stirring tons of butter,skimmilk powder, like we did yr ago and having it go rancid.

[bucket]

Trudeau isn't smart enough to mention the subsidy that North Dakota farmers receive from government...why...because trudeau doesn't give a shit about western canadian farmers ...and he doesn't know about it.

Nor does his Ag Minister who thinks while we sequester millions of tonnes of carbon we should also be on board with being taxed to do it.