Supply Management or NO DEAL

[sumdumguy]

Shouldn’t the Trump administration be playing checkers in a seniors home somewhere?

Why don’t you ask them tocome and play with you?

[TASFarms]

You are 100% correct.

Copy all USA farm programs and they can’t complain at all.

That's a good plan. Too bad it would take years to implement

[dmlfarmer]

Ultimately, the price of Kota reflects supply and demand, No one forced anyone to pay these prices for the privilege to print money, Supply management has been on the chopping block for years, This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. They invested in it knowing the risks, No different than the rest of us investing in overpriced land or machinery. I don't expect the taxpayers to bail me out if My poor choices of investment go underwater.

Perhaps a gradual phaseout would be the better route to recover some of the quota costs rather than the taxpayers paying for it.

I agree. However, I do not think Canada should be forced into a quota phaseout without a corresponding reduction in US agricultural programs/subsidies. Their publically funding price protection distorts production and trade just as much as supply management. Until the US is willing to reduce support they provide their farmers through subsidization I do not think Canada should have to adjust quotas or tariffs.

[Horse]

I agree. However, I do not think Canada should be forced into a quota phaseout without a corresponding reduction in US agricultural programs/subsidies. Their publically funding price protection distorts production and trade just as much as supply management. Until the US is willing to reduce support they provide their farmers through subsidization I do not think Canada should have to adjust quotas or tariffs.

So do we send everyone on the irrigation system a bill for the dams and infrastructure the rates on crown lands, the stumpage fees on soft wood lumber, the incentives paid to company to establish in your jurisdiction, the list could go on forever as to what is a subsidy and what isn't.
If I bought a new line of equipment to grow 12$ canola and the price drops to 6 and I loose my behind who should pick up the bill the taxpayer?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

If I bought a new line of equipment to grow 12$ canola and the price drops to 6 and I loose my behind who should pick up the bill the taxpayer?

That is my point. The writing has been on the wall, yet producers continue to buy quota under the assumption that taxpayers will bail them out of the poor investment. The profits have been just too great, otherwise quota's wouldn't be the price they are.

[MBgrower]

Most of you guys need to wake up and look at the big picture. It is absolute jealousy that makes you guys anti quota system and anti us subsidies. Both make you money in prairie agriculture. Without US ethanol mandates where would grain prices be, just look at the huge price swings the last couple years everytime they look at changing regs we get huge market reaction. The good prices and profitability we have had the last 10 yrs have a lot to do with ethanol production.
And if supply management goes you will also have lower grain prices, more farmer competition and dont forget higher taxes. As for milk prices, its as cheap as any other bottled beverage already so it ain't going down. And work wise it is still a tough 24/7 job. Robots tech can only do so much, no different than adding a Gps to your tractor, makes life better but doesn't eliminate the work.

without the ethanol mandate, perhaps land prices, fertilizer, farm machinery... wouldnt cost so much.

[GDR]

without the ethanol mandate, perhaps land prices, fertilizer, farm machinery... wouldnt cost so much.

You have a point. Chicken vs egg situation.

But are farm economics better now or 15 yrs ago. My opinion is now, others may not agree.

[dmlfarmer]

Time to stand up for free trade instead of Trump supported US subsidies
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[Rareearth]

Justin is a dud, yes.

It doesn’t really matter who is PM, trump would still be bashing, etc.
- what countries are on Trumps friendly list?
- what friends does trump have? ( that he doesn’t fire a short time later)
-he pushes everyone away and at the same time everyone wants to be close to him (friends) ironic, his style

[samhill]

Trade agreements

The Canada/USA trade is so convoluted it gives me a headache.
Ag, auto, etc.
But, if you think Trump is stupid and a bully OK.
How many aircarriers, cruisers, warplanes etc does Canada have? How many do Russia, China have, or nuclear armaments.
How much auto industry in Canada owned by China? and shipped into the US.
Heck, our railroads are owned by Americans.
Trudeau is a minime.
Doesn’t matter about Trumpps sexual appetites as long as no one gets hurt, grow up.
Cut the best deal you can with the economic giant. And for the most part, you get more by friendly negotiation.
Trumps not stupid, he didn’t get there that way.