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    #21
    Originally posted by samhill View Post
    I’m amazed how some people don’t respect the law. How some people don’t see an underlying agenda. How some people are ailing to see taxes go to 100% of income and we still run deficits on top of that. How they have no respect for the hard work, lives lost, and the ethic that built this country ow going further down the drain. How they don’t see who profits from theses policies.
    how do you put a cash value on basic human rights.Wars are fought over human rights not money

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      #22
      So you want me to pay for everything wrong in the world, not the people who cause it. Do we not have a UN that we send a lot of good money to?
      Countries have armed forces in order to protect people, we pay money for that.
      How about I send you $2500 free every month, no repayment. You would likely enjoy that, no worries about me, just spend my money, but I’d be broke in no time. In fact even better if you can take my money as you please,

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        #23
        https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-immigration-photo/father-says-little-honduran-girl-on-time-cover-was-not-taken-from-mother-idUKKBN1JI082

        Is it all bullshit and the media lies?

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          #24
          Originally posted by macdon02 View Post
          https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-immigration-photo/father-says-little-honduran-girl-on-time-cover-was-not-taken-from-mother-idUKKBN1JI082

          Is it all bullshit and the media lies?
          In that particular instance who knows? Did a reporter get to the scene and witness a little girl crying for mommy and jump ahead to assume mommy was gone? Is the man making the claim really her father?
          However the fact is or is it fake that republicans themselves couldn't stand to see what was happenning and therefore force the squirrel to reverse what he was doing? If not that little girl are the other ones that are missing from parents not in trouble?

          One of the things said by a reporter which I believe to be totally true is that what mak s the separations even more difficult is the fact of the level of incompetency by the officials. They seperate kids and parents and don't have a record of who is who or who went where???? How dumb is that and how inhumane is that particularly to the ones that aren't coming to do harm.

          What's not being reported is many are fleeing the drug cartels and face death have no choice.

          Yes I don't think we should be solving everyone else a problems. We are at the point of not being able to handle this migration of people to the point we are risking our own societies.

          Where the hell is the UN? There ought to be safe zones where all these people can be taken and then processed as to who is legitimate but even if they are can we simply carry on taking in all these people?

          Here's an idea for all those immigrants coming in why not all the money they get be loans? My kids have loans for school loans for room etc? Why not them? You come here yes we put you up but you get a job and you start paying back what we gave you. Many of these people are being given a better start than our own residence and looked after better than our seniors for example that have built his country.

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            #25
            Fact check: Do refugees get more financial help than Canadian pensioners?
            Refugees


            Sonja Puzic, CTVNews.ca
            Published Monday, November 23, 2015 12:01PM EST
            Last Updated Tuesday, December 1, 2015 1:53PM EST

            As Canada’s new Liberal government moves forward with its plan to resettle 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of the year, false claims about how much money will be spent to support them have been circulating online.

            The federal government is debunking claims that refugees receive nearly $2,500 in monthly assistance – more than the maximum amount Old Age Pension recipients can collect.

            An infographic that has been widely circulated by email and shared on social media claims that Ottawa gives refugees a “monthly pension” of $1,890, plus $580 in social aid, for a total of $2,470 per month or nearly $29,000 per year.
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            The infographic says that Canadian seniors, meanwhile, cannot receive more than $1,012 per month, or $12,144 per year in Old Age Pension and Guaranteed Income Supplement benefits.

            The Government of Canada says those claims are false.

            “The email mistakenly includes the one-time start-up payment as part of the monthly payment,” an explainer on the government’s website says.

            “The amount of monthly financial support that government-assisted refugees get is based on provincial social assistance rates. It is the minimum amount needed to cover only the most basic food and shelter needs.”

            The maximum monthly income for Canadian pensioners cited in the infographic is also false.

            So what kind of financial support will Syrian refugees get once they arrive in Canada?

            According to the Canadian Council for Refugees, government-assisted refugees can get some help through the federal Resettlement Assistance Program.

            That support is generally available for up to a year. The maximum amount provided is $25,000 per family. That includes a one-time start up payment to help refugees establish a household in Canada, as well as monthly income support, a spokesperson for Citizenship and Immigration Canada said.

            The monthly payments depend on the size of the family and social assistance rates in each province.

            Citizenship and Immigration Canada estimates that an individual in Ontario would receive roughly $2,065 in a one-time start-up allowance, to cover things such as basic household needs, furniture, winter clothing and telephone installation if a landline is chosen. The estimated monthly assistance to a refugee in Ontario is $768, but the department notes that individual circumstances vary and so do the monthly payments.

            The government also helps refugees find permanent housing, learn how to set up a bank account and register for various federal and provincial programs.

            However, the Canadian Council for Refugees says that most resettled refugees end up in debt because they are expected to repay the cost of their transportation to Canada and other related expenses – with interest. The council says that more than 90 per cent of refugees repay their loans.

            Privately sponsored refugees are not entitled to federal or provincial government assistance during the period of their sponsorship. Asylum-seekers who apply for refugee status upon arrival in Canada also can’t receive resettlement assistance.

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              #26
              Hmmmm. Do they not get a total of $3600 / month ??
              I will pass on the info I seen when I have time to find it. I watched a news article on this issue.

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                #27
                It was on a CBC video from 2016 . Google it ..

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                  #28
                  As farmers, many of ancestors came here for land that was taken from first nations with little compensation and given to settlers who worked hard to build a life here in Canada. Many farm families benefited greatly from the gift of land and the welcoming start received in Canada.

                  Refugees and immigrants also work hard and contribute to Canada.

                  Almost everyone on this site receives the benefits of farm subsidies and government programs like health care and other social support programs.

                  All this complaining about support for new refugees and immigrants seems very ironic when we consider our own history.

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                    #29
                    Little compensation?????? Your kidding right ??
                    We pay very dearly for those social programs and health care through tax’s for both our families and “many others “
                    Who don’t contribute through tax’s .
                    No compensation... lol

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                      It was on a CBC video from 2016 . Google it ..
                      People seem to have come to conclusions without having the facts.

                      Getting information second and third hand is like going to the coffee shop and believing every story told is the truth!

                      Ever played the rumour game?

                      But facts don't really matter any more! LOL

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