Jails for kids at the USA border? Looney tunes!!

[chuckChuck]

I never go to the coffee shop .
I find my own info .
“Experts” only tell the story they get paid to portray.

Yes this is the anti-expert, anti-facts, anti-science, anti-evidence based decision making world we live in.

Some people make up the facts and conspiracy theories and try to pass it off as credible arguments.

If you go to highly politicized websites or sources you are not getting the facts you are getting biased opinion.

[furrowtickler]

So CBC not stating facts ?

[chuckChuck]

When my ancestors came in the 30's, had to pay for a quarter over time. It was 100% bush and sloughs just like the natives left it for what, 10,000 years. They ZERO assistance, worked for maybe a buck a day, plus cleared the land to get the minimum 5 acres done. A tiny poplar log house with bulrush roof. They came through proper legal channels, not ILLEGALLY walking across the border or jumping off a boat. NO welfare, NO medicare. I say send them back, apply, we will think about it. We have thousands that came legally, working, contributing, fitting in. A conversation with a Filipino, the dad said they went back to visit family but his kids now HATE the +40 heat in the Philippines, want to stay in COLD Canada.

Do you remember all the boat people who came to Canada from South Vietnam after the US lost the war in 1978 and 1979? They were all refugees escaping retribution from the Communist North.

Ever hear anything about them? Their kids and families are here running businesses and working hard to make a living and they pay taxes too.

What about all the refugees that came to Canada during and after the second world war? Many of them are our parents and grandparents.

Get rid of the safe third country agreement and refugees will come through regular border crossings just like most of all the previous generations of refugees and immigrants have done.

This is a country founded on refugees and immigrants. Only a very small number have come here illegally. And that can be fixed.

[chuckChuck]

So CBC not stating facts ?

Your post is a comment on a video done by the CBC. That is not the CBC. Have you seen the video?

There is not enough information to know much about what the video said about anything. Let alone present it as evidence or fact.

In order to know what refugees receive in each province you would need to get that from each government department in each province along with Federal government or directly from refugees.

The CTV article clearly shows that misinformation was being posted on social media.

In any case any amount of support or compassion shown to refugees would likely be opposed by those who are anti-immigrant.

If the issue is illegal crossings, that can be fixed.

But we will still have refugees and immigrants coming to this country and both the Conservatives and Liberals are fully supportive of helping legitimate refugees and immigrants.

[furrowtickler]

Most are not anti immigrant at all , its the amount of people in general getting free tax payers money for nothing and not working for it . Also in some cases taking home more money than the average hardworking joe that has contributed many many years of tax’s and supporting this economy. That’s the issue . But you will just throw up the racist card or anti immigration card to suit your cause
Some people just can’t see the forest through the trees and refuse to look 👀

[samhill]

All I can say to you Chuck, and being very polite, is you pretty much talk through your hat.

[Klause]

Your post is a comment on a video done by the CBC. That is not the CBC. Have you seen the video?

There is not enough information to know much about what the video said about anything. Let alone present it as evidence or fact.

In order to know what refugees receive in each province you would need to get that from each government department in each province along with Federal government or directly from refugees.

The CTV article clearly shows that misinformation was being posted on social media.

In any case any amount of support or compassion shown to refugees would likely be opposed by those who are anti-immigrant.

If the issue is illegal crossings, that can be fixed.

But we will still have refugees and immigrants coming to this country and both the Conservatives and Liberals are fully supportive of helping legitimate refugees and immigrants.

Chucky here's some news for ya from an immigrant.


If you are poor, unskilled, and visibly not white... And you need to be all three... Canada welcomes you with open arms.

Otherwise the Canadian immigration system makes it next to impossible to enter. That's first and second hand experience.

My friend whose a grain merchant in Laos is having a heck of a time with immigration just like my family did. He's skilled smart and fairly well off.

3 years and counting to get permanent residency.

[samhill]

Not sure this will load:
https://www.facebook.com/temporaryforeignworkerprogram/?hc_ref=ARSkZSwBtNM8aCmt2BY7FCLHASZGacsVof2378ob6g j-pnU_h8afa0Qg04CtVYj2o1E&fref=nf

[MBgrower]

Start adding up the value of all the land transferred and resources that have been extracted from the land that was originally first nations land and you will see that first nations received very little in exchange.

We created the system of reserves and dependency and have miserably failed in making sure first nations are successful and self sufficient.

those would be worthless assets if it were not for the immigrants that came here and turned them into value

[samhill]

I thot I might as well give the Coles Notes version of the article in the previous post I made is this:

The Brazilian company that owns Tim Hortons Company has implemented a new policy on all its Canadian franchise owners which forces them to use the TFW program. TFW stands for Temporary Foreign Worke program. Under this program temporary foreign workers replace Canadian employeees with foreign workers, who are paid minimum wage and will work 44 hours per week while only paid for 40 hours.
Canadian employees are let go ( managers just tell them there is no work for them) and TFW’s are hired.
In many cases the Canadians who are let go are people that can’t get real jobs or are able to work night shifts so can look after family in daytime.

[furrowtickler]

I just don’t understand why government today are trying so hard to kill the very people who built this country from the ground up by taxing the heck out of us.
The very families that have been here for 100 plus years are taking the hardest hit for the benefit of those who here for the free ride , work less and want more for doing less , and expect it ... even demand it . And no , it’s not just refugees.
All of us immigrated here at one time , but only those who busted their butts made to where they are now , all along playing by the rules paying big tax’s and creating wealth — you stuff that builds a prosperous nation . Now we are getting the shaft .... hard 👎👎

[fjlip]

I just don’t understand why government today are trying so hard to kill the very people who built this country from the ground up by taxing the heck out of us.
The very families that have been here for 100 plus years are taking the hardest hit for the benefit of those who here for the free ride , work less and want more for doing less , and expect it ... even demand it . And no , it’s not just refugees.
All of us immigrated here at one time , but only those who busted their butts made to where they are now , all along playing by the rules paying big tax’s and creating wealth — you stuff that builds a prosperous nation . Now we are getting the shaft .... hard 👎👎

TOTALLY AGREE! Grandfather had 75 cents to his name after passage to Canada was paid. Started with nothing but bare hands. Paid taxes for sure, saved and lived frugally till he died. Next gen way better off, paying wicked amount of taxes. Third gen paying over HALF of earnings in TAXES. After this gen game over with Liberal ideology!