Peas

[furrowtickler]

We tilled about a section last fall. All seeded to durum this year. They evidently enjoyed loose soil. No peas planted here for decades.None around us either so can’t add to discussion. Sounds like maybe more compaction issues around root. Just maybe?

That plays a big part as well
A lot of cards in the deck . Many different outcomes .
But my belief is nutrient tie up and microbial degradation the leading factors in most of these issues .
But I am just a farmer , no scientist. Just given my boots on the ground experience not expert advice by no means .

[seldomseen]

My story with peas. I haven't grown then for 6 or so years but the last time I tried they came up really nice and looked great when we had decent rain. About 3 or 4 days after the rain I went and sprayed the field with Odyssey and at this time the peas looked really good. A week later I went back to the field and they were just a mess, yellow and weak. All the stems were pinched off and brown right through.

We used to grow peas and they would yield 40-50 but have not grown them since that 10 bu year.

[furrowtickler]

It’s kinda funny how one sees and hears the same story over and over again
And yet the reps says there almost never an issue . Hmmmm.
Not saying it is but just going but 👀👂

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Pharma.

That is a good question to ask your wife!

Ash heap of history on the farm, peas, canola, flax.

Keeper, soybeans. No one here has them root rot, yellow, eaten by flea beetles, or banned over being a GMO. They thrive in the light blue moisture zone.

[sumdumguy]

No field peas here but in a very sheltered location, I was unsuccessful growing garden peas. The ph of the soil was under 7. I noticed on the internet peas like acetic soil so I diluted driveway etching acid and sprayed the surrounding soil. The peas took off, grew so high that I staked to about 4 feet. The results were profound, lots of long filled peas. This year I cheaped out and used vinegar and not as evident a reaction from the peas yet, so we’ll see. This growing stuff is one big experiment.

[poorboy]

Innoculation issue?

I have had trouble here for years with peas looking great and then getting brown stems. Some times I alos have yellow herbicide injury and the plants die, but usually it just brown stems that weaken the plant and reduce yield. Often the plants are bent over on the stems at harvest and regrown upright. Would have been 6" taller if the week brown stem would not fold down.

Been doing a little trial this year and wonder if this is what is going on. First of all the soil is loaded with disease and weak plants get hurt. It seems like malnurished plants get hit harder. I have soil and tissue tested for years and it has been very inconclusive. Used to grow very good peas and it was a no brainer. Now I struggle to grow them, but have noticed that new fields I farm grow fine and neighbors with a minimal fertility plan grow them fine. So this year (and last year) I have been digging up my pea plants and plants from neighbors. I am finding that my pea plants have either less nodules or smaller nodules. Noticed this last year, so did a trial this year and put full fertilizer down with my peas on 40 acres just like for wheat. Those peas look freaking amazing, while the peas with just phos and phos+S look stunted and not thrifty. Brown root rot showing up in soggy areas of the normal fertilizer and NONE in the full fertility package.

Here is what I think is happening. Been using a lot more fertilizer now than I did years ago when peas were a no brainer to grow. Seems like my higher residual fertilizer from the previous crop is hurting nodulation, so my peas are not getting enough N from the nodules. Neighbors with good peas and lots of nodules are low Nitrogen users and have very little residual from the previous crop, just like I was when I grew good pea crops. Areas that I disked last fall or had blacker color seem to have released more N and the normal fertilized peas look good in those spots, just like the peas with the full fertilizer package.

So in my 40 acre trial I used 120N. Not sure if I had put on 40N, would the nodules kick in later on and produce a good crop or would I just get a crop that looked like it only had 40 lbs of N. For those of you having trouble, I encourage you to try a few acres with a lot of fertilizer once to compare your root health.

[furrowtickler]

What do you seed into that disease infected ground?..sarcasm a little bit not to offend.

Here’s the wheat on that same field this year ..

Looks ok so far 🤞

[farmaholic]

Pharma.

That is a good question to ask your wife!

Ash heap of history on the farm, peas, canola, flax.

Keeper, soybeans. No one here has them root rot, yellow, eaten by flea beetles, or banned over being a GMO. They thrive in the light blue moisture zone.

Which one?

LOL Chequing, that's 3/4 of my rotation.

[furrowtickler]

Doing a current soil test now to compare fields as well