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    #71
    Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
    Good to see you finally got a good rain. Got 3/10 here. Battleford looks wet. Doing the yearly Jackfish Lake campout. Nice crops in usual areas. Due for another trip to crooked bush. See how the hills at Whitkow look.
    Fish are bitting on Murray just to let you know Wilton

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      #72
      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
      Fish are bitting on Murray just to let you know Wilton
      Sweet👍

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        #73
        Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
        Partners, I wanted a good midge tolerant variety..... not "tall"erant...!!! We had Shaw, now Jatharia, thought about Titanium.... all must be related???(anyone). Now we opted for the midge tolerant semi-dwarf Landmark. Another good one might be Alida.... just in the early stages of seed multiplication, its only at the "select" stage of seed expansion. Could be a couple or three years yet before its available????
        Got Alida growing beside my yard.... Not real impressed. Made a lot of lush plant, and when it turned dry started aborting tillers and leaves like crazy.


        As far as yield... no idea, we sprayed for harvestability (Unity was a super tall, easily lodged variety).

        The problem with Ethrel (which has always been approved) and Manipulator, is they effect plant's internal hormone reactions. Time it wrong, and you can sterilize the plant...


        As far as dwarf vs. full sized varieties... remember that all that plant tissue converts CO2 into sugars, which are then converted into seed.

        The less surface area available for the plant's "solar panels" the less energy they can produce & store.


        Everything is a balance... The key is to have a short, stout stemmed variety with huge leaves... Canadian varieties aren't close to that yet... Just compare a plant of Pasteur to any CDN wheat...

        Of course there's another reason for that also. As you expand leaf area you also increase the area capable of transpiration, thus making the plant less drought resistant.

        European, Eurasian, and Argentine wheat varieties are bred for environments with 30in of annual rainfall +. Ours are bred for 4-6"... even though breeders have been going away from that in newer lines.


        As far as timing, farmaholic, that looks about right, maybe 3-4 days late.


        There's something going on in those plants though, notice the dead tissue at the ends of the leaves?

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          #74
          The Landmark, first pic has much less leaf area, 6" shorter so far. Second pic is Jatharia. Maybe getting short on moisture?

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            #75
            Klaus, would that also make those varieties more drown out tolerant?

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              #76
              No. Just gives u better standability in heavy wet conditions. Better water transfer throughout the plant due to the thicker stock and the fact it’s still upright not kinked over in a lodged situation.

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                #77
                From the study I read Farma I would say timing was dead on. Tillering looks complete to me. Any earlier can shut down tillering and cause a yield loss. Label has a wide window does not mean there isnt an ideal timing. In the study virtually all the yield benefit comes from preventing lodging. If its not going to lodge without manipulator I would say waste of money. Plus we need the snow catch.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by FarmJunkie View Post
                  No. Just gives u better standability in heavy wet conditions. Better water transfer throughout the plant due to the thicker stock and the fact it’s still upright not kinked over in a lodged situation.
                  Sorry for the confusion, I was referring to the European and Argentinian varieties of wheat that Klaus was talking about, being bred for 30" of rain, as opposed to our designed for drought conditions.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Partners View Post
                    Some new varieties are shorter.claim higher yields.
                    May be more N. Used for heads rather than straw.
                    We have Hughes side by side with titanium..both headed..hughes is 7 inches shorter now.will see when done stretching.
                    Major saving in harvest time if true to yield.
                    yea it's unreal , and Hughes lot lighter color . we saw the same height difference a few years ago when we had unity and titanium in the same field . unity was taller. both yielded similar back then

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                      #80
                      Spraying the half section field with fungicide of which half was sprayed with Manipulator. The lines are distinct...probably a six inch difference at this point.

                      Our sprayer has air assist boom clean out and where I ran out of Manipulator and emptied the booms with air pressure(while moving) you can just see the nozzles(sections) across the boom that were spraying air(light mist) and a true spray...

                      Even after harvest I won't be able to claim the treated stuff yielded better because the treated quarter of the half section is newer land and a better quarter because of that. My main goal was to keep the tall variety, Jatharia, standing on that piece of land. If it increases yeild it will be a bonus....its supposed to according to IHARF trials.

                      The wrong weather can flatten anything!

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