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    #25
    So horse, in light of what we learned from Peterson in the above video, would you classify Wayne Gretzky as a greedy hockey player who wouldn't share the puck? I mean, why should he hold 60+ records? Or why should the Oilers have had 4 Stanley Cups with him? (Like think of the poor Leafs, LOL!)

    Perhaps Picasso or Siah Armajani were just self-serving artists who swung a brush or wielded a chisel only for their own benefit?

    More problems are created than solved by over-simplification.

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      #26
      Originally posted by burnt View Post
      Peterson explains the 80/20 rule, Pareto Principle - may or may not completely related, but interesting. More observation than solution. Why do a only a few end up with the most?

      After watching to it, one will very easily be able to ascertain what "historical" role the various members on this forum would fill.



      If Jordan Peterson is on your watching/reading/listening list, you will likely get a much better perspective on issues than you could from almost any other living person today. He is a very rare intellect, the type that comes along only infrequently in this world -and he's Canadian, eh!?
      What a simplified crock of horseshit.

      He doesn't actually get paid for that nonses does he?

      Take hockey if you want to simplify it that much.
      If Wayne Gretzky is doing it all by himself then send all the other players home and let's watch him play with himself, how many other than the perverts would pay to watch that? He has 0 value by himself and the better that the ones around him are the better it all is. Second if he didn't have special NHL rules where. O one could touch him or if samenko wasn't there to drill anyone that even looked at him he wouldn't have lasted 2 years on his own. He knows it the hockey world knows it. So how much is samenko worth? A hell of a lot more than he ever received. And I used to watch samenko and the Calgary boys tim Hunter etc fk Wayne Gretzky he was a free loader pansy just like much of the people in the 10% once you get there the system is rigged for you. Your nothing without you workers. Many of them could do a hell of a lot better job at managing if it came down to it but life's circumstances play a huge roll in what people end up doing.

      2 farmers 10 miles apart one in sand that never gets rain the other in fertile land a nice rain every 10 days. Who has the 99% chance of succeeding? does it say anything about ability? Not a thing

      And if klaus you think the 30,000 dollar people are getting a. Free ride try living and getting ahead or actually try surviving at all on that wage. And in most cases they are doing as much or more than you do and I know I worked the rigs many years ago the reason I quit was there was so much money around the drug use made it an unsafe place to be. rhere weren't the safety rules ther are now.

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        #27
        Originally posted by LEP View Post
        Big Wheel claims he ain't a leftie. But if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.

        It is a Duck.
        Well then I guess you and I have something in common you keep saying your not an asshole sitting on bill Boyd's lap but why is that duck there in the photo!
        Hahahaha

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          #28
          I know, "but what have you/they done for me lately", but my beloved ML has 13 Stanley cups to O's 5.

          Wayne's world was to hang out behind the opposition's net, never to venture into his own zone to defend, and he was after all "just an average European hockey player". Too nice a day to beat up history, after this morning's shower. Hard to think about cutting hay until after to-morrow.

          I still think that once you get to a critical mass, money just flows into your orbit. Lots of dead bodies on the way up to becoming a billionaire. How much do you need?

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            #29
            Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
            What a simplified crock of horseshit.

            He doesn't actually get paid for that nonses does he?

            Take hockey if you want to simplify it that much.
            If Wayne Gretzky is doing it all by himself then send all the other players home and let's watch him play with himself, how many other than the perverts would pay to watch that? He has 0 value by himself and the better that the ones around him are the better it all is. Second if he didn't have special NHL rules where. O one could touch him or if samenko wasn't there to drill anyone that even looked at him he wouldn't have lasted 2 years on his own. He knows it the hockey world knows it. So how much is samenko worth? A hell of a lot more than he ever received. And I used to watch samenko and the Calgary boys tim Hunter etc fk Wayne Gretzky he was a free loader pansy just like much of the people in the 10% once you get there the system is rigged for you. Your nothing without you workers. Many of them could do a hell of a lot better job at managing if it came down to it but life's circumstances play a huge roll in what people end up doing.

            2 farmers 10 miles apart one in sand that never gets rain the other in fertile land a nice rain every 10 days. Who has the 99% chance of succeeding? does it say anything about ability? Not a thing

            And if klaus you think the 30,000 dollar people are getting a. Free ride try living and getting ahead or actually try surviving at all on that wage. And in most cases they are doing as much or more than you do and I know I worked the rigs many years ago the reason I quit was there was so much money around the drug use made it an unsafe place to be. rhere weren't the safety rules ther are now.

            Pretty interesting response - not sure what benefit there is in ignoring the facts behind his words. And a very strong and irrational response.

            Which shows a sad lack of willingness to acknowledge and deal with reality.

            So, are you denying the reality of the Patero Principle? Or the fact of the Communist Russian Great Purge?

            So it raises the question, was your opening sentence a response to the Peterson clip or a warning for what was to follow...well, it's obvious, isn't it.

            Cool your jets and think a bit there big wheel.
            Last edited by burnt; Jul 3, 2018, 07:28.

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              #30
              This whole thread is full of shit.

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                #31
                Originally posted by burnt View Post
                Peterson explains the 80/20 rule, Pareto Principle - may or may not completely related, but interesting. More observation than solution. Why do a only a few end up with the most?

                After watching to it, one will very easily be able to ascertain what "historical" role the various members on this forum would fill.



                If Jordan Peterson is on your watching/reading/listening list, you will likely get a much better perspective on issues than you could from almost any other living person today. He is a very rare intellect, the type that comes along only infrequently in this world -and he's Canadian, eh!?
                The best part about this genius Peterson no lefty can attempt to argue with him without looking like a fool. He really makes them unhinged.....similar to Big Wheel bad mouthing Gretzky’s hockey skills. 🙈

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                  #32
                  Originally posted by LEP View Post
                  I was at a function with a lot of gen x'ers. My brother in law looked around the room and said if a young person has initiative there are alot of opportunities out there.

                  I agreed and then said but the rest will happily vote to tax the shit out of him, while standing in line for their share of it.
                  Just wondering where your BIL was finding opportunity these days in Canuckistan? True private investment has dropped to zero these days so no one else is seeing it. The construction industry is waiting around these days for infrastructure investment, and pretty much does nothing else. There are green energy scams about and government pea fractionation scams. The oil market in western Canada is now in balance because they blew Syncrude up again. Lots of players trying to get in on the next big scam which is the marijuana industry. Housing is being propped up by government suppressing rates. Ag is dying due to increasing competition from the Black Sea and SA and the Indian pulse tariff so right now there is next to no opportunity in Canuckistan. All the young people want to get on with government because private sector is so dismal.

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                    #33
                    Originally posted by burnt View Post
                    Pretty interesting response - not sure what benefit there is in ignoring the facts behind his words. And a very strong and irrational response.

                    Which shows a sad lack of willingness to acknowledge and deal with reality.

                    So, are you denying the reality of the Patero Principle? Or the fact of the Communist Russian Great Purge?

                    So it raises the question, was your opening sentence a response to the Peterson clip or a warning for what was to follow...well, it's obvious, isn't it.

                    Cool your jets and think a bit there big wheel.
                    Burnt
                    It's a brainwashing that you've fallen for.
                    Are you in the 10%? Not likely but you've fallen for the idea that you have to pay so much for those under you. Truth is your paying for the ones above you just as much or more. Except they have the money to brainwash you into thinking other wise.

                    Did you get the Gretzky example? It reflects real business life in so many ways.

                    What's irrational is suggesting that because you don't want to worship the 10% that your a communist! Haha nothing could be farther from the truth in fact following the idea of Peterson you are more closer to the communist idea than anyone. A few people owning and controlling everything?? You can give it different names but it's the same thing perhaps maybe the difference is whether democracy is involved or not but the end is the same result.

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                      #34
                      No man is an island. Lots of little guys do not have a role model, self-confidence nor support system to give them footing.

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                        #35
                        Originally posted by Horse View Post
                        Lets say I misstated a bit, what I tried to say is disposable income Lets say rent 13000 /groc 6000,/ ei/cpp utilities, gas ,ins,lisnce/. And everything you purchase has taxes figured in the cost. App 24% on taxable income as compared to 14% on corporate rates. What it boils down to is would you rather have 50% of a mill or 100% of 30,000$ . and what's a fair split in your mind ??
                        So just to be clear it’s ok to discriminate with taxes but not anything else. It’s ok to discriminate against rich people with grants etc but not anything else
                        Just wondering how you lefty crusaders of all this unequal justify

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                          #36
                          Originally posted by vvalk View Post
                          So just to be clear it’s ok to discriminate with taxes but not anything else. It’s ok to discriminate against rich people with grants etc but not anything else
                          Just wondering how you lefty crusaders of all this unequal justify
                          I really don't see discrimination in this anywhere but so be it. Why do all you capatilasts automatically call everyone that docent agree a leftie.
                          You feel everyone that makes big money is just great,sooo why do you complain about machine dealers, seed,fert,rent, all they are doing is trying to make a living (right). Roads are crap rail is the sh-ts so we should use all this deadwood to shore up the roads and rails because you earned that money and its yours by god ,some one else can pay.
                          I don't have a problem with someone working hard and being rewarded for their lab or but there is as much entitlement out there as there is hard workers.
                          When you need someone they become valuable such as a tire man, low life dirty work low pay but you will hire him when you need service.

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