Alberta Suffering

[agstar77]

Things are so bad in Alberta that executives in Calgary only received 15 % more last year. Yeah, the economy is really in rough shape.

[the big wheel]

Things are so bad in Alberta that executives in Calgary only received 15 % more last year. Yeah, the economy is really in rough shape.

Well of course they want to buy back all the pontoon boats and Harley's they had reposessed.
Wonder why gas is what it is at the pumps?

[BreadWinner]

Lefty's lol

[the big wheel]

Lefty's lol

Hahaha no lefty here. but could you imagine if public service people received that? You know people that actually make a difference in others lives. Nurses teachers technicians etc???

[Klause]

Hahaha no lefty here. but could you imagine if public service people received that? You know people that actually make a difference in others lives. Nurses teachers technicians etc???

LOL!!!!!!!!


If you're pissed about how much an oil exec makes, just go get a job as an oil exec and show everyone on here how easy it is, and how much fun your new job is.


The public service is a lot bigger than a nurse, doctor or teacher.

Government is top heavy as all heck and there's a lot of 'executives' that make far more than they are worth... The difference is it's public tax money, not private enterprise money.

[Oliver88]

Spending spree in People’s Republic of Alberta.....



Nice work Nutjob and Ceci.

[the big wheel]

LOL!!!!!!!!


If you're pissed about how much an oil exec makes, just go get a job as an oil exec and show everyone on here how easy it is, and how much fun your new job is.


The public service is a lot bigger than a nurse, doctor or teacher.

Government is top heavy as all heck and there's a lot of 'executives' that make far more than they are worth... The difference is it's public tax money, not private enterprise money.

Hahaha wtf do they do. Do you mean guys like wall advising lawyers how to build a pipeline?? Your delusional if you think they deserve the money they screw all of us out of every time we fill up at the pumps. You seem so out of touch that are you saying you're. It paying their salaries. Lmao!! Hahahaha joke of the day.

Take that useless easy *** job any day of the week.

How about you go be a nurse teacher etc and deal with that every day.

Government execs yes are paid too much case in point the sask party candidate that soaked all of us when she wasn't even working there any more wasn't even worth that when she was that part I agree

I m speaking about the deaparity of those making a difference dealing directly with people and those getting paid in an office somewhere worried about the next round of golf.

I keep getting all those deficit numbers from Alberta yet even conservative numbers have things turning around? Which ones are true?
Speaking of deficit we had a sask party at s time of 100 barrel oil and still put up a deficit of 3 times what they told us it was. Hahaha

[Klause]

Hahaha wtf do they do. Do you mean guys like wall advising lawyers how to build a pipeline?? Your delusional if you think they deserve the money they screw all of us out of every time we fill up at the pumps. You seem so out of touch that are you saying you're. It paying their salaries. Lmao!! Hahahaha joke of the day.

Take that useless easy *** job any day of the week.

How about you go be a nurse teacher etc and deal with that every day.

Government execs yes are paid too much case in point the sask party candidate that soaked all of us when she wasn't even working there any more wasn't even worth that when she was that part I agree

I m speaking about the deaparity of those making a difference dealing directly with people and those getting paid in an office somewhere worried about the next round of golf.

I keep getting all those deficit numbers from Alberta yet even conservative numbers have things turning around? Which ones are true?
Speaking of deficit we had a sask party at s time of 100 barrel oil and still put up a deficit of 3 times what they told us it was. Hahaha

What's easier? Running a farm or going to work as a teacher?

Junior oil companies are just like farmers... Fixed inputs (drilling, royalties, services, transport) costs, and sales price that's based off a discounted (WCS is discounted off of WTI).

The margins aren't that high unless you have a refinery. Or own the pipelines and infrastructure to transport product to market, which only the largest companies have.

Go see how much on a litre of fuel goes to taxes to fund the "public good".

The stupidity of BC's Horgan complaining about high gas prices and the feds need to do something when the entire disparity is basically his carbon tax & fuel taxes that just keep climbing...

[food4u]

Does BC also have a special tax on fuel to help fund public transportation?? I think my now departed cousin had mentioned something about a tax of this sort.

[Klause]

Does BC also have a special tax on fuel to help fund public transportation?? I think my now departed cousin had mentioned something about a tax of this sort.

	Saskatchewan	Vancouver
Federal Tax	$0.10	$0.10
Provincial Tax	$0.15	$0.16
Local Tax	$0.00	$0.17
Total Excise Tax	$19.0	$34.95
HST/GST/PST	5%	5%
Min total tax	$20.0	$36.70

[Hamloc]

Here some interesting numbers relating to Alberta's debt and who contributes the most in income tax. Since coming to power in 2015 the Alberta NDP has raised corporate tax 20% from 10% to 12% and they have raised the top income tax rate for those earning $300000 and up 50% from 10% to 15%. In Joe Ceci's final report on the 2017-2018 budget year both royalty revenues and investment income came in higher than expected but returns from corporate taxes were over $400 million below projections and returns from personal taxes were also over $400 million below projections. A recent article on the CBC news website had some interesting numbers from the most recent year available which is 2015. Keep in mind that this was the first year the NDP were in power and in their first budget they raised personal tax rates for those over $125000 to 10.5% and those earning over $300000 to 11.5%, both up from 10%. Those rates are now 12 and 15% respectively. The bottom 50% of wage earners contributed 2.3% of all personal income tax collected in 2015. The next 40% of wage earners contributed 28.7 of all personal tax collected. That left the top 10% contributing the remaining 69% of all personal income tax collected. Now if I was in government and I wanted to increase revenue it would appear to me that I would want to attract and therefore increase the number of high income earners as this would be the most beneficial to revenues as they certainly carry the load now. But what are most governments in Canada doing? They are raising taxes on the wealthy, telling Canadian's the wealthy need to pay their fair share. Well they are paying their fair share, they pay over 2/3's of personal taxes in Alberta and raising their taxes creates a situation where they may leave and go to lower taxed jurisdictions. But silly me, they only make up 10% of the population, there are not enough votes. Let's give all their money to lower income earners, that where the votes are and in the process lower rather than increase government revenues!!! Enjoy your day😎

[the big wheel]

Here some interesting numbers relating to Alberta's debt and who contributes the most in income tax. Since coming to power in 2015 the Alberta NDP has raised corporate tax 20% from 10% to 12% and they have raised the top income tax rate for those earning $300000 and up 50% from 10% to 15%. In Joe Ceci's final report on the 2017-2018 budget year both royalty revenues and investment income came in higher than expected but returns from corporate taxes were over $400 million below projections and returns from personal taxes were also over $400 million below projections. A recent article on the CBC news website had some interesting numbers from the most recent year available which is 2015. Keep in mind that this was the first year the NDP were in power and in their first budget they raised personal tax rates for those over $125000 to 10.5% and those earning over $300000 to 11.5%, both up from 10%. Those rates are now 12 and 15% respectively. The bottom 50% of wage earners contributed 2.3% of all personal income tax collected in 2015. The next 40% of wage earners contributed 28.7 of all personal tax collected. That left the top 10% contributing the remaining 69% of all personal income tax collected. Now if I was in government and I wanted to increase revenue it would appear to me that I would want to attract and therefore increase the number of high income earners as this would be the most beneficial to revenues as they certainly carry the load now. But what are most governments in Canada doing? They are raising taxes on the wealthy, telling Canadian's the wealthy need to pay their fair share. Well they are paying their fair share, they pay over 2/3's of personal taxes in Alberta and raising their taxes creates a situation where they may leave and go to lower taxed jurisdictions. But silly me, they only make up 10% of the population, there are not enough votes. Let's give all their money to lower income earners, that where the votes are and in the process lower rather than increase government revenues!!! Enjoy your day😎

Ya that's the picture but what goes into making that picture? Those top 10% and good for them have excess money to the point it don't matter what the price litre of gas is. Also they get their excess money out of paying the bottom half as least as possible almost exploitation. There is an income imbalance pay the labourers more and they can more than afford more tax also. It works the same for everyone. Don't pay the lower end much and what are we expecting them to pay more if the taxes???

Excessive salaries for make belief jobs are a crime. Remember Pamela walking getting a high paid job to be an advisor on some mine or something? Like really are you kidding! Someone pays for all that crap because that goes into the price the rest of us pay.

Oil execs give themselves raises because the can't afford roe drive to work. That xauses the gas prices to go up which means the tax will go up as it is a percentage of what the oil execs want. Never ending cycle that we pay for.

[Horse]

Klause. Cry me a river it must be dam hard living on $1500/day plus mileage plus hotel/meals/ the odd fishing trip/or working weekend in Huston( probably with hooker supplied) not tp mention corperation yep must be tough getting by on a measly 2/300 000$ /yr.
And if there is dirty work to do you ph some grunt for $30/hr so you don't get your hands dirty.
We pay the PM 300 odd thousand and not too many oil execs that earn that much run anywhere as big a corporation.
The top 10 % control more than 90% of the worlds wealth. So where would you like to get the tax $ to run the country. Anyone making say 30 thousand a yr pays a far higher % of there wages to taxes than those who get the big money, Say Hunter Harrison %47 mill.

[BreadWinner]

Carefull Klause your hitting a nerve with yhe socialists.

[Hamloc]

Klause. Cry me a river it must be dam hard living on $1500/day plus mileage plus hotel/meals/ the odd fishing trip/or working weekend in Huston( probably with hooker supplied) not tp mention corperation yep must be tough getting by on a measly 2/300 000$ /yr.
And if there is dirty work to do you ph some grunt for $30/hr so you don't get your hands dirty.
We pay the PM 300 odd thousand and not too many oil execs that earn that much run anywhere as big a corporation.
The top 10 % control more than 90% of the worlds wealth. So where would you like to get the tax $ to run the country. Anyone making say 30 thousand a yr pays a far higher % of there wages to taxes than those who get the big money, Say Hunter Harrison %47 mill.

So I am curious Horse did you read my post above?