The Right to Own Land

[Klause]

Regarding the original post, which part of that do you feel is missing/non-existent in Canada? Maybe I am having a dumb moment, but I can’t see what is there (Argentina) that is not the same here?

There's no constitutional right to own land in Canada. In Argentina is is a fundamental right of citizenship to own land.


One of the many reasons Canadian land has always traded at a discount... Buying an asset that can be taken away is riskier than one you are guaranteed right to.

[seldomseen]

When I read your story Burnt I can only think what a failed state we have become and the cost of doing anything will be so high no one will do anything.

I hope the socialists are happy they are getting what they wanted.

[blackpowder]

Not quite the same.
But the firearms lobby has been pointing out the property rights issues for 4 decades.
Surface rights people for 3.
Not news. Nobody cared.

[Taiga]

There's no constitutional right to own land in Canada. In Argentina is is a fundamental right of citizenship to own land.


One of the many reasons Canadian land has always traded at a discount... Buying an asset that can be taken away is riskier than one you are guaranteed right to.

Ok gotcha now, yes property rights are not part of the Canadian constitution, the provinces have authority over their own property rights/laws.

In BC, for example, there is no such thing as expropriation WITHOUT compensation (compensation is mandatory). I am surprised other provinces can expropriate without compensation.

[farmaholic]

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One of the many reasons Canadian land has always traded at a discount... Buying an asset that can be taken away is riskier than one you are guaranteed right to.

With all due respect Klause....that is a delusional statement. No one is safe anywhere. Through out the history of mankind there are countless examples of the choice of being displaced or die.

"Tribal" barbarism is alive and well even today and "civilization" is quick to fall off it's moral high horse.

Canada is still one of the best places you could raise Junior....even with all its worts.

[Klause]

With all due respect Klause....that is a delusional statement. No one is safe anywhere. Through out the history of mankind there are countless examples of the choice of being displaced or die.

"Tribal" barbarism is alive and well even today and "civilization" is quick to fall off it's moral high horse.

Canada is still one of the best places you could raise Junior....even with all its worts.

I'm simply restating what I've read in investment magazines.

It is a known "quirk" of the Canadian system.


You've seen above... Without this right government decides or can decide what you can or can't do.

(Think drainage, land clearing, gravel extraction, topsoil removal or building a bunch of houses on your land)

Darcy and I don't plan on raising Kurtis in any one country..

We're just very fortunate to have this option come to us.

[Klause]

Ok gotcha now, yes property rights are not part of the Canadian constitution, the provinces have authority over their own property rights/laws.

In BC, for example, there is no such thing as expropriation WITHOUT compensation (compensation is mandatory). I am surprised other provinces can expropriate without compensation.

There's no province with a law guaranteeing rights to land. As someone above said it would violate section 35

[farmaholic]

Again, with all due respect, and you appear to be a smart fellow. But I would grow some roots and try to establish yourself in one spot instead of chasing rainbows. Rainbows fade away. There is a reason both established people and unestablished people come to Canada...yes some come for the right reasons, one is opportunity.

The grass may appear greener on the other side of the fence, in fact it just might be. But it may also be harder to mow.

Weigh the pros and cons, focus on the positive not the negative(Maybe I should heed my own advice).

Don't take for granted you live where many others only wish they could. I'm not for a minute saying it's easy or everything is perfect in Canada but the list of places better or equal is likely shorter than the alternative.

Good luck Klaus and take care.

[Klause]

Again, with all due respect, and you appear to be a smart fellow. But I would grow some roots and try to establish yourself in one spot instead of chasing rainbows. Rainbows fade away. There is a reason both established people and unestablished people come to Canada...yes some come for the right reasons, one is opportunity.

The grass may appear greener on the other side of the fence, in fact it just might be. But it may also be harder to mow.

Weigh the pros and cons, focus on the positive not the negative(Maybe I should heed my own advice).

Don't take for granted you live where many others only wish they could. I'm not for a minute saying it's easy or everything is perfect in Canada but the list of places better or equal is likely shorter than the alternative.

Good luck Klaus and take care.

I think you look at life mostly from a farming in Canada perspective...

I look at life from a much different viewpoint. I have opportunities to be involved in projects both in the ag world and out of it... And some of these take me to other continents.

I.E. in a few weeks I'll be in Johannesburg...

Different goals in life and different experiences.

[farmaholic]

I think you look at life mostly from a farming in Canada perspective...

I look at life from a much different viewpoint. I have opportunities to be involved in projects both in the ag world and out of it... And some of these take me to other continents.

I.E. in a few weeks I'll be in Johannesburg...

Different goals in life and different experiences.

Yes you are right about me looking at life through farming glasses. I am NOT worldly at all! But I am satisfied with my lot in life...hard not to be given the circumstances, I'll leave it at that.

Nothing wrong with you exploring other opportunities outside of Ag. Too many are lulled into the romantic notion of it and those days are over...its a tough business and not for the faint of heart or anyone who knows better....don't be a Farmaholic if you know it's affecting your life in a negative way....it can be like an addiction....its ok to quit. Retired people and those who exited early have all said there is life after farming.

It's a stoopid business where sometimes it doesn't matter how passionate you are, how hard you work or how great an effort you make....lots can go wrong and too much is out of our control.