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    #21
    I also question why the midge tolerant gene was put in such tall varieties or varieties with lower fusarium ratings first, seemed foolish to me.

    Follow the money?

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      #22
      Originally posted by bucket View Post
      OK. ...but where do you think our research dollars should go....varieties that made Canadian farmers the premiere wheat growers are being deregistered regularly. ....seems no one can build a good variety .....


      Went from neepawa to barrie to superb to lillian and now either brandon or titanium....and probably changing again in 2 or 3 years....


      Guys at elevator can't tell the difference ...they ask what variety it is...
      Variety? Most can't tell what class it is! Especially now that KVD is gone and no manditory training. When I was on the bench we had to pass a variety id test every year along with a grading exam.

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        #23
        Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
        I will defend what I did....

        Had Shaw....midge tolerant, prone to lodging, Didn't like it's fusarium susceptibility.
        Went to semi dwarf Cardale,...little lodging with NO midge resistance decent against fuzz
        Wanted to get back into midge resistance
        Chose Jatharia with better fùsarium rating than Shaw, midge tolerant but still too tall
        Enter Landmark...semi dwarf with midge tolerance and decent fuzz rating but not as good as Cardale.
        Watching Alida and will likely switch when its available

        Let me know when the Silver Bullet variety becomes available.....choose your ****ing battle.

        Moral of the story....we finally have some semi dwarf midge tolerant varieties! I never "chose" a specific variety so I could spend more money controlling it's height!
        Hughes looking real good , 6" shorter than titanium , same px strength , better for fuz , titanium was 6" shorter than unity

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          #24
          Originally posted by biglentil View Post
          The data suggests that economic benefit comes if lodging is prevented. No one likes lodging but not likely to see it this year.

          The stuff aint cheap at approx $15/acre, but at least it did not burn my durum white like the $19 Prosaro XTR. Thank goodness I only sprayed 1/3 of my acres with that crap. The big boys would not give it up and they got burnt literally.

          Sometimes the more juice we spray the more we fk it up. Spray wisely!
          No. There is a spray for spray damage. Its in the spray book and retailers shed.
          Buy a very new sprayer, it is the most important machine on the farm.

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            #25
            Originally posted by biglentil View Post
            Lets say you'll see an avg 10% yield bump (im sceptical that its that high) on your avg 50bus yield wheat. Cost of application approx $20, extra production is 5 bus × $6 wheat = $30. On paper it would appear that it was a $10 per acre benefit. Gross revenue without application is $300 and with is $330/acre.

            However lets say that everyone starts using it. Everyone has a 10% yield bump. A simple economics supply vs demand graph would suggest we can therefore expect the wheat price to drop from $6 to $5.40. So now gross revenue is 55bus x $5.40= $297. Cost of production went up $20 and now we have more trucking, more storage, and is likely more taxing on your soil.
            Yup. It's a race to the bottom, and it won't stop. The glory and profit of producing big yield on your own field overshadows the big picture oversupply issue. And regions who historically use very little inputs are catching up in their agronomy. Can you imagine what the price of wheat, or any crop, would be if every growing region had a perfect year and applied fertilizer and chem like we do?

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              #26
              Originally posted by Marusko View Post
              Yup. It's a race to the bottom, and it won't stop. The glory and profit of producing big yield on your own field overshadows the big picture oversupply issue. And regions who historically use very little inputs are catching up in their agronomy. Can you imagine what the price of wheat, or any crop, would be if every growing region had a perfect year and applied fertilizer and chem like we do?

              We would all be out of business mostly because other countries also support their farmers because farmers help the economy by spending.....Canada doesn't support their farmers they shit on them....


              6800 acre cattle operation just listed nearby for 7.5 million.....you guys do the math as to who can afford that on a 400 head herd? Throw in dry weather to boot.

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                #27
                If fertilizer doesn't fit your management style....don't put any on. Same as any other input. No one is telling anyone they have to do anything.

                If you're more profitable spending less, who am I to argue with you? It's the net profit that matters anyway, not the gross.

                I'm cheaper than wheat......

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