US to Support Farmers During Trade War!

[sumdumguy]

Gonna change the topic for a bit. Ireland dry as a fart, London too. Seems like the “lord of the rains” is on-strike. The taxi driver in London says if it ever rains again, he is going to stand out naked in the rain for at least 15 minutes. Euros don’t work here, why didn’t you guys tell us that?

[Hopalong]

Lived through the time of Pierre Trudeau and his response to demonstrater, “why should I sell your wheat when that is the job of the wheat board?”
Granted that the board said they could not sell more wheat except at a lower price and were depending on the quota system to limit deliveries.
See some support on here for more government regulated marketing like we had with wheat board but even Ralph Goodale says they are not about to bring it back.

[SASKFARMER3]

I never want the CWB back but when a country puts a 50% tariff against my product I expect the government to hit them in the pocket on some shot they sell to Canada or help its farmers. Not dance dress up and look like a fool without even taking the ag minister.

That’s all and the USA will always help it’s own not like our idiot giving billions away to the world.

[MBgrower]

A lot of money goes to R&D...

Here is an interesting little factoid from my little farm.

In 2016 I used durum seed saved from the farm....strongfield I think....Complete wreck was sold for feed.

In 2017 I used the same seed that was left over....sold for a 1cwad no issues.

Environmental conditions have more impact than anything else.

would have spraying helped in 2016? NOPE because its was ****ed.

So why are we as farmers having our allotments from governments seized into R&D?

Another factoid.

Side by side fields ...I sprayed my lentils once ...neighbor across road sprayed twice....same grade same yield....he was lighter the cost of spray.

Why the **** do we need higher yielding lentil varieties when no one is buying our product?

The R&D money should be reallocate to better and more pressing issues in Agriculture.

The canola council is probably the biggest pusher for higher yields. they want more yield, because it adds up to more checkoff funds for more holidays in palm springs. They are no different than the grain cos wanting more grain to handle, and the crop input retailers wanting to sell more fertilizer, fungicides, etc. And the dumb farmer ends up with no net gain, only lower prices , more storage on farm, more rail and trucking costs, and increase financial and production risk. And we pay for this R&D. Its fcking crazy. by the way remember to get your canola levies back before the deadline. Last i checked, you cant get the forms on line, they make it really hard to find them if they are there.

[grassfarmer]

Just make sure it’s to one of his socialist utopia destinations like Venezuela that don’t have internet access for their citizens. 😂

That's funny you guys that spend so much time falsely accusing me of being a socialist while portraying yourselves as bastions of free enterprise and contrasting yourself with the rest of society who are all just spongers on welfare - but when the shit hits the fan you're first in the queue with the begging bowl for Government aid.
Wake up call - there is such a thing as business risk, assuming you can grow a product targeted at a foreign market and always get access to that market at a price that suits you is naive and foolish. Maybe when you're doing your financial planning based on the hundreds of thousands of dollars profit you anticipate getting taxed on you should plan on setting a little aside for a rainy day?

[Ache4Acres]

I applaud the US in supporting their farmers. I had a long debate recently with a prominent business person and they were sure that the hospitality (restaurants/ hotels) are more
Important to the economy than agriculture.

It is so obvious to me, that ag and ag manufacturing so much beats out consumption type industries like hospitality that it is not even a contest. Funny how he didn’t see it.

In the last decade grain has become a very worldwide market. We have foolishly (or not) shared our technological enhancements with many developing countries (usually subsidized by our own Canadian govt) and now countries like
Russia, ukraine, India and Argentina are major grain producers (and increasing). In our world of heavy govt regulation and massive input costs we simply cant compete.

Someone I know recently bought a beautiful farm
In the Ukraine for $400 per acre...sounds like
I better brush the dust off my perogy recipes! Home to mother Russia!!!

[Ache4Acres]

I do think that farmers in Canada are too polite
To raise a stink. We should all be banging on JT’s door asking him about his response to India pulse tariffs!

[Oliver88]

Looks like the USA and EU are working towards tariff free trade. EU was worried due to the threat of tariffs on auto manufacturing.
Interesting to see how our government responds to potential auto tariffs.

[malleefarmer]

Was a bit today on our rural radio about usa tariffs subsidies etc etc grass might like to chip in but from a aussie perspective the biggest threat according to the "expert commentator" was actually beef and lamb prices.

There will be a excess of 975,000 metric tonne of pork in the usa presuming it means that its pork that was destined for china and aint no more because china put retalitory tarriffs on.

Know somehow they seem to a fair % of this pork will actually end up in oz some free trade arrangement.

Guess hes thinking that australians will eat cheap pork in preference to expnsive lamb and beef, personally i dont agree but he said consumers want cheap meat and chicken and pork it is at the moment.

A side of beef from bulk butcher is $8 to 12 per kilo thats your mince sausages burgers steaks roasts osso bucco dog bones the whole kit and kabootle for that price, a side of lamb the same is $16.50 to 20 again in bulk.

Consumers pay about at least double, my auntie lives in the big smoke loves her lamb and steak but she says to im a poor old pensioner in her 85th year i just cant afford a steak or lamb chops so she buys chicken pork or beef mince, so gives you a jolt when you see the "other side of meat prices"

sorry got a bit off track.

but do you hear this at all grass i beleive you sell direct

[grassfarmer]

I don't think Auntie will be wanting the pig's faces or feet lol.

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