Fire logs

[jazz]

Wouldnt one wheat harvest give you enough heating fuel and food for the rest of your lifetime?

Yeah the city guys would be totally f'd. Most of them cant even cut their grass.

[burnt]

In a shtf event a fire is a great way to alert others to your presence. Many of us could go weeks if not months without any food at all.

Interesting supposition. What food source are you thinking about?

We have likely a year's supply of food in the deep freeze. But depending on the event, it will be spoiled in less than a week.

Canned goods are the ticket. And a ton of work.

The Amish and Old Order Mennonites around us would be in about the best position to survive.

Can I be in your "prepper" camp Braveheart? I will and can pull my weight. If I'm in the "Preppy" camp I'm sure to perish with them and we will see their "social network" dissolve into a quagmire of disorganized violent primal survival instincts.

It would/will? be far uglier than most of us can imagine.

Flee to the mountains and hope your flight is not in winter...

[farmaholic]

You're in like Flynn. What skills do you bring? Blacksmithing? Tactical abilities with firearms or hand to hand? Trade and negotiating? Hunting/gathering? Mechanics?

Comic relief in the face of adversity...think Monty Python.

[burnt]

Comic relief in the face of adversity...think Monty Python.

Oh I see.

They'll die laughing before they get to you...

[Klause]

I don’t see any saw cuts in your pictures of your “Canadian Candle”, what did you use to hollow out the centre?

I have a bunch ready made. Drill out a 1.5" hole in the centre, and then intersect with a 1" hole from the side.

Have a bunch of 4' tall ones for bonfires, those are crosscut with the chainsaw.

[farmaholic]

Oh I see.

They'll die laughing before they get to you...

I might be taking more from the table than I bring!

Who is in charge of personnel qualification assessments?

[Crestliner]

All of them, my friend and I talk about this all the time. Picture the same scenario you described but in Saskatoon, it scares the shit out of me to speculate what it would be like. My step daughter and I get into some heated debates when I tell her we are just one extreme event away from being like South Africa with roving city dwellers and other "self entitled" demographics that literally could not survive without access to food, water, money and of all their precious social media. I do believe we would be shooting people on our doorsteps that would be coming for what we have.

Misterjade we must have the same friend....he is a crazy middle age guy who wants to stock guns and ammo to prepare for the mobs that will run in the country for food and strip our farms bare.....lol...don’t need much protection on my farm....our garden, freezers and cold storage room would be emptied in short order.

I think that most city people when faced with a crisis of that proportion would just likely lay down and give up....wait for the phone service to come on. Lol.

[Klause]

I think that most city people when faced with a crisis of that proportion would just likely lay down and give up....wait for the phone service to come on. Lol.

This is what I think.


Y'all need to Reed the sociology experiments and research from John Callhoun

[jazz]

Similar situation that have happened around the world show that people wont leave cities to pilage surrounding landowners. They will first form groups and try to go after the power that be like govt and other agencies. After finding that is a dead end, they will loot local businesses in the city. They will stay where their dependency is until that is exhausted. Only the bravest or smartest will venture out of the cities.

[Ache4Acres]

The more I think about a shtf scenario it is hogwash.

The reality is that farmers with any grain on hand will have a good food supply for a very long time. Sure nobody wants bread or pasta or hummus everyday but it’s better than nothing.

Nobody will have access to fuel so driving outside the city will be impossible.

[biglentil]

Gerald Celente Quotes. When people have nothing left to lose, and they've lost everything, they lose it.