Chuck, evidence that your side has lost the debate in one image

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Yeah, but those are "% of American adults who say "x" is a top priority for Trump and congress figures"

We aren't allowed to use things happening in the US on this site remember? - your rules?

Besides I bet if you asked the population of countries that are suffering the worst affects of climate change you'd get a different %.

How about the UN's survey worldwide, you can check it country by country too, see if Bangladesh is more concerned with climate change than access to clean water and sanitation, they are after all front and center poster children for SLR. http://data.myworld2015.org/ http://data.myworld2015.org/

Climate Change is dead last as usual.

You will have to remind me of my rules? I said I think the unhealthy fixation Canadians have with the personal life and personality of the democratically elected leader of a foreign sovereign nation seems unjustified considering the current state of affairs of our politics and economy, or something to that effect.


You can disregard the source, the author and the text if it doesn't suit you, but this timely article has links to a bunch more worldwide surveys that put climate change last:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/08/01/global-warming-is-not-peoples-most-pressing-concern/?cn-reloaded=1 https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/08/01/global-warming-is-not-peoples-most-pressing-concern/?cn-reloaded=1

[AlbertaFarmer5]

So Albertafarmer 5 have you given up on finding peer reviewed science to back up your claims that human caused global warming does not exist?

Instead you have decided to dig up Google search trends? Are you grasping at straws?

I have no doubt that most humans are more worried about their personal lives and making sure they take care of themselves and their families in the short term. Most people are just worried about keeping their job, paying the mortgage and putting food on the table.

Climate change is a long term problem with some current examples of negative impacts.
However that doesn't mean that most people aren't concerned about the negative affects of climate change. They just don't want to do much about it.

Throughout human history there have been numerous examples of civilizations that have come and gone because of excess population, environmental degradation, overuse of resources, and failure to adapt.

There is s good chance we will repeat many of these mistakes on a global scale.

Many parts of Europe and the northern hemisphere are hotter and drier than normal this year. Crop yields will be lower.

As you can see by the precipitation map a lot of western Canada is drier than normal and yields will be not as good as many have hoped. But don't worry there will always be next year.

Chuck, if you had bothered to read any of this thread, or my previous posts, I said next winter when I have free time, I will gladly provide peer reviewed papers to refute any of the propaganda you spout.

I clearly stated in my first post here that this in no way proves or disproves your theory, it only proves that your tactics are failing to win or even maintain public support.

This was in response to a previous posting where you claimed that the debate has been lost, but you confused who had lost the debate. I pointed you in the direction of evidence, but you couldn't be bothered to research any of it yourself, so I am providing some. I will continue to whenever I have a few spare minutes.

[farming101]

Thank you farming101 for demonstrating negative correlation. The possibility that iPhones are the sole cause of coal consumption increases is about as absurd as the OPs assertion that the decrease in internet searches surrounding global warming indicates that the population longer believe in it.

That was not the reason I posted the chart. Never even thought of that because it is ridiculous

[beaverdam]

A good part of people seeing through the glowball warming fraud, is the old adage from limousine liberals, "do as I say, and not what I do."

When Al Gore and Bernie Sanders live and own in 4 or, 6 or, or more houses, along with all the Hollywood mouthpieces like George Clownyass, and Leonardo DiCrapio and all the dozens of others, with their houses and their fights, true beleivers we're told,,,don't change their lifestyles, well,,, doesn't seem to be very serious then does it.

And our little PM and his Climate Barbie, taking an entourage of around 450 people, to a climate meeting, really is evidence that taxing carbon gas is really a taxing scheme. By this government sending Billions of dollars of taxes, collected from the peoples, the citizens of this country,,,to other countries, without any idea how, or where, or to whom the money is spent is really criminal.

By calling carbon gas, pollution,,,is scientifically criminal.

Warming might be happening, if so, it's only the continuation if warming since the glowball iceage started to melt. After all, under the thin layer of earth's crust we're standing on, is hot molten lava, which very frequently comes to the surface.

If glowball warming is so bad, how is it we're growing more food than the world has ever seen, to feed more people the world has ever seen.

Glowball warming = climate change = Tax Grab !

[bobofthenorth]

Climate Barbie's move to reduce the carbon tax on select industries should demonstrate conclusively that it was never about the environment and always about the tax revenue. For those diehard Lieberals with their heads so far up their asses that news of the real world takes months to penetrate we can only wait and hope.

Oct 2019 can't come too soon.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Funny that it is taking so long to get a rebuttal to the inconvenient UN study. Must be frantically trying every possible permutation and combination on the survey site, to find a group who agrees with their illogical anti-science priorities?

I imagine some honest UN statisticians must have found themselves suddenly unemployed after having compiled something so counter to the UN's own stated agenda.

[burnt]

And that's without even mentioning the Trudeau Liberals today starting their climb-down from a carbon tax.

Thank you, Doug Ford.

[Oliver88]

And that's without even mentioning the Trudeau Liberals today starting their climb-down from a carbon tax.

Thank you, Doug Ford.

Fascinating event since, McKenna, Chuck, grass and all warmists have been stating the carbon tax was good for the economy!!
Now they admitting it will hinder our competitiveness with the USA.

Indirectly Trump has helped kill our carbon tax.

[malleefarmer]

Theres lots of "heated" debate in oz at the moment.

The greens are suggesting australia are highest emitters in the world per capita.

If you look at our oil gas iron ore plus heaps of other mining as well as all industry then look at our current population around 24 million yep we are.

But if we had same emmissions but our population was just a increase of 5 million to 29 our emmisions per head would be in a average range.

You can also skew that china and india per head are low emmision countries because of vast population.

Not getting into a argument per say just figures and stats dont always do justice for either side of argument.

[Hamloc]

So Chuck2 the federal Liberal's have backed off somewhat on the level of carbon tax imposed on such industries as iron and aluminum production, nitrogen fertilizer production and cement production. They feel these industries will be at a competitive disadvantage! If climate change is such an immediate problem why are they backing down? I have always maintained that a carbon tax imposed in Canada without a similar tax in competing countries would cause carbon leakage with heavy industries moving to lower taxed jurisdictions. Looks like Trudeau and the rest of his socialist leaning colleagues are suddenly waking up to this reality. But he is still going to tax the shit out of the rest of us. What an idiot!!!!!