Urea

[woodland]

Just curious what others are seeing for prices currently. Everyone seems to think the states is going to put in way more corn thanks to this pi$$ing match over beans with China. We were quoted $460 for immediate delivery and most of the sellers don’t see it coming down. This is west of Edmonton. TIA

[farmaholic]

**** Urea....how about harvest first.

Bucket says we shouldn't be building shiny steel storage for the GrainCos....no different for fert...if you take it you better turn it before long. I'm not against prebuying fert...but this is too early.

[jethro456]

I was quoted $425 for August delivery in southern Alberta. When August tonnes are filled, September is $450

[iceman]

**** Urea....how about harvest first.

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[farmaholic]

I was quoted $425 for August delivery in southern Alberta. When August tonnes are filled, September is $450

Why?????

[Oliver88]

Why?????

I predict you don’t get a solid answer to this question.

[helmsdale]

Why?????

You honestly have to ask? God I get so tired of all this shit. We've built shiny bins to hold grain long term. We've put up flashy rows of epoxy lined hoppers to hold fertilizer long term. Maybe all these shiny, heated sheds aren't so much for fixing old wore out machinery, but for holding chemical long term. Im honestly surprised that aside from FNA, all the retailers haven't started pushing us to buy our chemical nearly a year in advance.

Not so long ago, you were a real pro if you could hold your grain until late spring or summer, buy your fertilizer in january or february, and get most of your chemical figured out a month in advance.

[macdon02]

Alright .... which derivatives market or high risk bonds are these ****ers buying? Put the fat chick on the stage everyone knows she's up next

[farmaholic]

Helmsdale....my question was purely rhetorical sarcasm!

But you still better take it now while it's cheap and there's ANY left.

[fjlip]

As per last 45 years plan at least one more time to fall apply so getting quotes for October, $459 urea, paid Dec 31

[farmaholic]

As per last 45 years plan at least one more time to fall apply so getting quotes for October, $459 urea, paid Dec 31

You're addicted, aren't you?

Just one more hit, then I'll quit.

Just kidding fj. You have quite the stamina to endure 45 years.

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[helmsdale]

Helmsdale....my question was purely rhetorical sarcasm!

But you still better take it now while it's cheap and there's ANY left.

O don't worry I was baling what you were swathing.

I still remember the "manufactured" phos shortage my 2nd year of farming... there were contracts to be filled out of pocatello at rates agreed to months in advance, but no-one was willing to haul for their garbage rates. Numerous companies phoned us hoping to get us to haul, but there was no negotiation on rates. We'd give them 6 trucks dedicated to the phos run, but they wouldn't budge, so they got 0 trucks. At that time, rates were good and trucks were short, so pretty much everyone, even the yanks told pioneer, cps, simplot, and all the rest to get stuffed if they weren't willing to pay up.

The shortage was months in the making, but why pay the extra $50/mT in transport when you can manufacture a shortage and run prices up $3-400/mT.