The Middle East....

[furrowtickler]

Give me a break. The US nuked Japan into submission and carpet bombed Germany into a hellscape and razed Vietnam with napalm and now look at those places now.

Its all relgion. Thats the reason these places cant get it together. There are countries the US has never entered or had anything to do with still living in the stone age.

Yup , no one wants to admit the truth .
The Middle East is generally 100 years behind the rest of the world . So they let women actually drive and vote now ????
But hey let’s support them , buy their oil send them millions and shun Western Canada 👎👎👎👎👎👎

[helmsdale]

They've been lobbing rockets, bombs, and rocks at each other since time began. Land has been conquered, lost, reconquered, and relost. As chief said... biggest stick wins, always has.

To think it's the wests fault is to ignore history. Sunni hates shi-ite and vice versa. Everyone hates Kurds and the Jews. Persians hate arabs and vice versa. Turks hate persians and vice versa. I could continue but you get the point. Everyone hates everyone. If any of them see a weakness in their adversary they take advantage. And if they are the disadvantaged they wage a guerilla campaign.

The only constant in that neighborhood is the constant rearranging of the rubble.

[Rareearth]

When ever the USA has been involved in other regions of the world it has always been about oil, energy security, and supply to the mainland USA.

The USA is now self sufficient in oil and natural gas. The USA no longer needs the other regions of the world, or appears to want them either.

Helm points out the religious groups and idealologies, supply guns and intelligence is way cheaper, easier war to battle. Trump doesn’t care about the political troubles or issues abroad it’s all about mainland USA. The USA is secured, isolated, by oceans and supporting neighbours ( Canada and Mexico), ocean, sky, space, intelligence superiority. Those other warring countries they can ride a bike into the enemies back yard, Trump wants them ( and will support) the local, religious, cultural battles.

Throw in currency wars, (technology, strategic war) well,

I’m glad to live where we are

[Horse]

Solid points and we can key in on islamic ideology, barbaric customs specifically leading to the majority of issues which keep countries in the Stone Age.
Israel is the only civilized country in that entire region that takes human rights seriously. You could actually pay $ to have a holiday there.........

Isreal takes human rites seriously,,, What a laugh.if your not Jewish you are just cannon fodder, with the USA supplying the powder.
I don't know why the Jews seem to be so important to so many country in the world, do they hold the bank strings, and if so why does the USA send so much money and arms to them. We even ask them for opinions on our elections, why do we care.
So jump on me with your anti Semitic claims.

[grassfarmer]

The USA is now self sufficient in oil and natural gas. The USA no longer needs the other regions of the world, or appears to want them either.

Last complete year figures I saw were for 2016 when the US imported 25% of it's petroleum needs.

They were still importing 700,000 barrels a day from Saudia Arabia in the last quarter of 2017.

Donald Trump's first international presidential trip was to meet Saudi Arabia's King Salman and other Saudi muslim leaders where he signed a $110 billion arms deal with them. Not a word about human rights was whispered there by all accounts - Good old Donald eh?, sucking up to these Muslims, the same ones that were behind the 9/11 attacks. I'm sure you all stand steadfastly behind him while condemning the comments from one of Trudeaus ministers.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Last complete year figures I saw were for 2016 when the US imported 25% of it's petroleum needs.

They were still importing 700,000 barrels a day from Saudia Arabia in the last quarter of 2017.

Donald Trump's first international presidential trip was to meet Saudi Arabia's King Salman and other Saudi muslim leaders where he signed a $110 billion arms deal with them. Not a word about human rights was whispered there by all accounts - Good old Donald eh?, sucking up to these Muslims, the same ones that were behind the 9/11 attacks. I'm sure you all stand steadfastly behind him while condemning the comments from one of Trudeaus ministers.

I think that should have either read that USA will soon be self sufficient in energy, or that North America is now self sufficient in energy.

Either way, the rest is true, the US no longer needs the rest of the world, and it is becoming painfully obvious lately that they intend to withdraw in all ways. It is scary what these types of places will denigrate into without US interference of any kind(good, bad or indifferent, depending on your outlook).

[furrowtickler]

I say cut all ties with Saudi, they treat their women like third class citizens. But the last thing we need to be doing is poking our nose in their business and supporting radical groups demanding change . Just get out of their and leave them be . Their own society will eventually figure it out if they get shunned by the rest of the world. The world is changing fast and yes new technology is making oil less important every year. Without oil revenue they have very little.

[grassfarmer]

....Either way, the rest is true, the US no longer needs the rest of the world, and it is becoming painfully obvious lately that they intend to withdraw in all ways....

The facts would indicate otherwise. US trade deficit at it's highest level since 2008 due to the steady rise in imports. Remembering that Trump was elected November 2016 look what imports have done since then.



The people that voted for Trump and his "America First" campaign just keep on increasing their spending at Walmart - and it's damn near all made in China!



While they may seek to withdraw morally and societally to the Dark Ages under the Trump administration the nature of global trade nowadays is going to make a fool of any attempt to run an isolationist policy.

[furrowtickler]

Both Trump and JT are doing significant harm to the US and Canada .... both pushing ideals way to far right and Left .
If you can not see that you are a 🤡.
Bashing Trump to deflect on the carnage that Justin and his way to far left virtue b/S is simply stupid . They are both doing harm on the world stage in their own way.

[grassfarmer]

Not bashing Trump to deflect from Trudeau - this was a post that wasn't really about Canada - Yemen, Saudi Arabia, US and their imports. We're still allowed to discuss non-Canadian topics aren't we?