Monsanto Guilty !

[vvalk]

For some of us, the change is well underway. Glyphosate is used only for control of grassy weeds here, and there are strains of wild oats now resistant to it, so how much longer that will hold is anyones guess. It's useless because of natural resistance against it as a pre-burn, in crop roundup ready weed control, or pre-harvest weed control.

About the only purpose it serves is for spot spraying perennial weeds in the fall.

Chemfallow is a lost cause around here as well. Expensive cocktails that only wing or supress problem weeds mean guys are dragging double discs and cultivators again. God help me if I have to go back to conventional tillage...

Round up tolerant wild oats? Since when? Just wait till you can’t use glysophate and see what you will do. big talker that change is under way.

[Hopalong]

Have been driving by oat field once a week or so, sign says organic farm.
Looks like complete crop failure this year, ,nothing to harvest, not even weeds.
Suspect lack of nitrogen fertilizer, maybe denitrification of what was there.
Fields like this not uncommon in past, now rare.

[farmaholic]

fj, we have rolling topography and variable fields. Low spots would probably "Glypho" desiccate!

Those low spots seem to hang on forever while the high ground becomes dead ripe....just one of the "joys" of Ghetto farming.

[hobbyfrmr]

"Monsanto ordered to pay $289m as jury rules weedkiller caused man's cancer"


https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-jury-finds-monsanto-guilty-roundup-trial-224845050.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-jury-finds-monsanto-guilty-roundup-trial-224845050.html


https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/08/10/monsanto-roundup-former-groundskeepers-cancer-290million/ https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/08/10/monsanto-roundup-former-groundskeepers-cancer-290million/


https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/10/monsanto-trial-cancer-dewayne-johnson-ruling https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/10/monsanto-trial-cancer-dewayne-johnson-ruling


https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/jury-awards-dollar289-million-after-man-says-he-got-terminal-cancer-from-monsantos-roundup/ar-BBLLOiT?ocid=spartanntp https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/jury-awards-dollar289-million-after-man-says-he-got-terminal-cancer-from-monsantos-roundup/ar-BBLLOiT?ocid=spartanntp


"The lawsuit is the first to accuse the product of causing cancer, but observers say a Monsanto defeat likely opens the door to thousands of other claims against the company, which was recently acquired by Germany's Bayer."


Sorry hobbyfarmer, guess we'll all soon be organic,,,,flooding your markets !

Wow. Farms will be going backwards 75 years . Tillage will destroy a generation (approx 30 years) of the organic matter built with zero till. Wind and/or water erosion will reign.
Farmers can’t afford to go backwards that far. Buying $120,000 tillage tools and the extra hours on a $425,000 tractor will depreciate the hell out of it. Add to that the inefficiency of harvesting half a crop with a high capacity combine, selling into a flooded (organic) market. This is an ugly picture. I am confident Bayersanto has been spending multimillions in research and development for the last decade. I sincerely guess that they will introduce a brand new seed technology and chemistry bundle by February 2019 so farmers will not have to go backwards 75 years and lose all that they built . It will be an expensive package for the first decade but at least the farmers will be doing the right thing.

[hobbyfrmr]

Or perhaps a full hazmat suit and full breathing apparatus when working with Glyphosate. Does the label say anything about field re entry times? The surfactant is apparently the risk issue. Sure hope carbon cab filter works! Highest exposure would be spraying around the yard/buildings/bins. Bye bye preharvest..

Agreed with protective gear.
The best strategy in this area is to buy the product and deliver it to the employees. Instruct them to wear the protective gear you have supplied for them. Make sure your employees calibrated the sprayer properly then Instruct them what rate you want product applied, then you go do cool farm owner/manager stuff.

[helmsdale]

Round up tolerant wild oats? Since when? Just wait till you can’t use glysophate and see what you will do. big talker that change is under way.

Don't really know why this got under your skin like it did. I am by no means a "big talker". Simply telling it like it is. What's shaking in your neighborhood is your prerogative, I'm simply stating what's shaking in mine! I've never seen group 9 resistant wild oats myself, but they are rumored to be around, again, in "my" neighborhood.

Loss of glyphosate as an effective means of weed control has already happened "here." People are not changing tactics "here", because they want to, but because they HAVE TO!