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    #13
    “East” should be more defined by Ontario and more specifically... Quebec . They wield far to much power onto the rest of all Canadians. Hence the East oil line - it was squashed primarily by the Mayor of Montreal. The west pipelines , primarily by one Green Party MLA in B.C. who became the ring leader out their holding the rest of Western Canada hostage . The current B.C. government has no choice but to play to that one mans tune to keep in power due to the shit show NDP/ Green Party set up there .

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      #14
      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
      If you and your family have been here 100 plus years you might understand, but you don’t so let it go
      Oh I understand all right - it's just throwing out frustration at "them" rather than actually defining a problem and coming up with a solution. Clearly there is no way the status quo can change on matters like this other than as a whole Canada approach. Separating western Canada from the east isn't a viable solution either although it's easy to bandy about.

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        #15
        How long was Harper in power with a majority?
        Long enough to build a pipeline to the east.
        And if the Irving's had wanted one , Harper would accomadate in a second.
        So do not blame the east in general.
        Do you seriously believe that Ontario or Quebec residents have a say in what oil ends up in the local refinery

        And grass was right to bring
        Up a case, of blatant hypocrisy.
        How much clearer than that does it have to be .

        Good job grass

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          #16
          Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post
          How long was Harper in power with a majority?
          Long enough to build a pipeline to the east.
          And if the Irving's had wanted one , Harper would accomadate in a second.
          So do not blame the east in general.
          Do you seriously believe that Ontario or Quebec residents have a say in what oil ends up in the local refinery

          And grass was right to bring
          Up a case, of blatant hypocrisy.
          How much clearer than that does it have to be .

          Good job grass
          This is not about Harper or Irving oil , it’s about the current government flaunting this human rights issue all over the globe in everyone's face . But ignoring it at home . I am all for equal rights for all , but if your going to beat the drum and still alow imports from those very same nations , or give billions to them annually that have very little regard to human rights , while handcuffing your own tax payers and natural resources.... well just pointing out that that screams hypocrisy as well .
          Harper never ran around the world telling others what to do and fuking up trade with other nations. Was he perfect , nope , but Peter Pan shows no balls to back up his “Ideals” .
          Again ... do as I say not as I do .... 👎👎.

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            #17
            now if you guys , want to put your socialist shoes on
            we / the government . can build a pipeline to the east.

            I am all in

            once you do that.

            then what if , the Saudis have a change of heart .
            and forgive Canada .
            now they want to sell oil 10- 20 $ a barrel cheaper to the east .
            than western oil .

            now what ?
            are you going demand by law , the refinery's buy western oil ?

            if you say yes , you are a worse socialist than me

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              #18
              Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post
              now if you guys , want to put your socialist shoes on
              we / the government . can build a pipeline to the east.

              I am all in

              once you do that.

              then what if , the Saudis have a change of heart .
              and forgive Canada .
              now they want to sell oil 10- 20 $ a barrel cheaper to the east .
              than western oil .

              now what ?
              are you going demand by law , the refinery's buy western oil ?

              if you say yes , you are a worse socialist than me
              Just saying ..... but don't we end up buying Quebec cheese, because of law? Correct me if I'm wrong. According to dairygoodness.ca 75% of the cheese in Canada is supplied by Quebec
              Last edited by macdon02; Aug 15, 2018, 23:22.

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                #19
                furrow first it was no more flaunting Canadian human rights , than Barids condemnation
                of the flogging.
                and grass was right , for Barid to come out with anything less than support of freeland .
                just proves he is an a hole .

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                  #20
                  hey macdon I am all in.
                  it is you guys that never get on board with these things.

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post
                    hey macdon I am all in.
                    it is you guys that never get on board with these things.
                    I think with the pipeline east out was a chicken or egg deal.... sorry about the pun. It was bad. Anyhow govt didn't make it happen previously as industry wasn't looking for it, and govt wasn't in the the pipeline biz. But things changed, margins got hammered, royalties increased, regulation increased, US started exporting and industry said "let's do this or we die". Then Mr Coderre says no way. The only other timeframe in recent history that this would have been feasible was likely 1998 when crude was $12 .... But we were probably importing for $10 then. Guess my point is opportunity only comes around so often and it's a shame to not see it happen because govt needs the money on all levels down to municipal. Think Canadian select crude is sub 40 ish according to BNN today

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post
                      furrow first it was no more flaunting Canadian human rights , than Barids condemnation
                      of the flogging.
                      and grass was right , for Barid to come out with anything less than support of freeland .
                      just proves he is an a hole .
                      Yes I agree on Barid, never said otherwise. Was just pointing out the hypocrisy on this whole Saudi deal , if we as Canadians are going to champion human rights , and I am all for that , stop Saudi Oil ....... make a point . Don’t just send useless tweets . Saudis have made several moves, planes, pilots , students. Peter Pan needs to grow a set and stop the Saudi oil . But the point is he won’t

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                        #23
                        Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                        Yes I agree on Barid, never said otherwise. Was just pointing out the hypocrisy on this whole Saudi deal , if we as Canadians are going to champion human rights , and I am all for that , stop Saudi Oil ....... make a point . Don’t just send useless tweets . Saudis have made several moves, planes, pilots , students. Peter Pan needs to grow a set and stop the Saudi oil . But the point is he won’t
                        Nor did the Harper Government with Baird involved, just saying.

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                          #24
                          Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                          Nor did the Harper Government with Baird involved, just saying.
                          Could be , never followed it much back then .

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