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      #12
      Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
      This "Eastern Canada" thing is getting old. What exactly is "eastern Canada" in terms of an oil buying entity? As far as I know there are businesses in eastern Canada that decide to buy overseas oil versus western Canadian stuff. There are Canadian citizens (and organisations and politicians) in eastern Canada that support pipelines and increasing use of western oils just as there are citizens (and organisations and politicians) in western Canada who oppose building more pipelines and would prefer to see the oilsands mothballed. Painting it as a simple "east versus west", "them versus us" issue is a worthless misrepresentation.

      If you want to lobby that Canada prohibits importation of Saudi oil completely because of their human rights record and a desire to utilize more western Canadian oil that is one thing, but blaming "eastern Canada" for hurting us in western Canada won't get you anywhere as a campaign because it's based on nonsense.
      If you and your family have been here 100 plus years you might understand, but you don’t so let it go

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        #13
        “East” should be more defined by Ontario and more specifically... Quebec . They wield far to much power onto the rest of all Canadians. Hence the East oil line - it was squashed primarily by the Mayor of Montreal. The west pipelines , primarily by one Green Party MLA in B.C. who became the ring leader out their holding the rest of Western Canada hostage . The current B.C. government has no choice but to play to that one mans tune to keep in power due to the shit show NDP/ Green Party set up there .

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          #14
          Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
          If you and your family have been here 100 plus years you might understand, but you don’t so let it go
          Oh I understand all right - it's just throwing out frustration at "them" rather than actually defining a problem and coming up with a solution. Clearly there is no way the status quo can change on matters like this other than as a whole Canada approach. Separating western Canada from the east isn't a viable solution either although it's easy to bandy about.

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            #15
            How long was Harper in power with a majority?
            Long enough to build a pipeline to the east.
            And if the Irving's had wanted one , Harper would accomadate in a second.
            So do not blame the east in general.
            Do you seriously believe that Ontario or Quebec residents have a say in what oil ends up in the local refinery

            And grass was right to bring
            Up a case, of blatant hypocrisy.
            How much clearer than that does it have to be .

            Good job grass

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              #16
              Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post
              How long was Harper in power with a majority?
              Long enough to build a pipeline to the east.
              And if the Irving's had wanted one , Harper would accomadate in a second.
              So do not blame the east in general.
              Do you seriously believe that Ontario or Quebec residents have a say in what oil ends up in the local refinery

              And grass was right to bring
              Up a case, of blatant hypocrisy.
              How much clearer than that does it have to be .

              Good job grass
              This is not about Harper or Irving oil , it’s about the current government flaunting this human rights issue all over the globe in everyone's face . But ignoring it at home . I am all for equal rights for all , but if your going to beat the drum and still alow imports from those very same nations , or give billions to them annually that have very little regard to human rights , while handcuffing your own tax payers and natural resources.... well just pointing out that that screams hypocrisy as well .
              Harper never ran around the world telling others what to do and fuking up trade with other nations. Was he perfect , nope , but Peter Pan shows no balls to back up his “Ideals” .
              Again ... do as I say not as I do .... 👎👎.

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                #17
                now if you guys , want to put your socialist shoes on
                we / the government . can build a pipeline to the east.

                I am all in

                once you do that.

                then what if , the Saudis have a change of heart .
                and forgive Canada .
                now they want to sell oil 10- 20 $ a barrel cheaper to the east .
                than western oil .

                now what ?
                are you going demand by law , the refinery's buy western oil ?

                if you say yes , you are a worse socialist than me

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post
                  now if you guys , want to put your socialist shoes on
                  we / the government . can build a pipeline to the east.

                  I am all in

                  once you do that.

                  then what if , the Saudis have a change of heart .
                  and forgive Canada .
                  now they want to sell oil 10- 20 $ a barrel cheaper to the east .
                  than western oil .

                  now what ?
                  are you going demand by law , the refinery's buy western oil ?

                  if you say yes , you are a worse socialist than me
                  Just saying ..... but don't we end up buying Quebec cheese, because of law? Correct me if I'm wrong. According to dairygoodness.ca 75% of the cheese in Canada is supplied by Quebec
                  Last edited by macdon02; Aug 15, 2018, 23:22.

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                    #19
                    furrow first it was no more flaunting Canadian human rights , than Barids condemnation
                    of the flogging.
                    and grass was right , for Barid to come out with anything less than support of freeland .
                    just proves he is an a hole .

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                      #20
                      hey macdon I am all in.
                      it is you guys that never get on board with these things.

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