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    The Bernier effect?

    Figured this would happen. Trouble is many agree with him. But you won't get what he wants with a victory for
    Andrew so now what? Sacrifice another 4 years???? Really threw a wrench into winning for the conservatives now.
    Power hungry people destroy partiesamd that's what they want so that they get in next time.

    #2
    Yes I agree

    Settle your differences behind closed doors.

    **** your giving shit head a edge.

    38 vs 35

    We had the asshole with his man handling it the French grama who he called non Canadian and a racist.

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      #3
      Had the media focused on the questions she was asking as opposed to who she was ....Trudeau would have had a tougher time....

      But since the media wants to label her a radical or a racist ....Trudeau gets a free pass on this...

      The question was a fair one and I think a lot of canadians are asking it...

      Maxime Bernier might not be toeing the party lines but at least he has the right to talk freely....something I think is still important in this country before we lose our identity to the policies of the trudeau liberals.

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        #4
        And then there are the Robocalls! Seems the cons can't help stepping in Doo Doo.

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          #5
          Its going to be interesting to see if Scheer can keep a lid on the intolerant anti immigrant side of his party?

          There are so many recent immigrants and descendants in Canada it is going to be hard to win without them.

          This country is so diverse and dependent on immigration for economic growth that I don't see any chance a hard right anti immigrant party will ever do well in Canada.

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            #6
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            This country is so diverse and dependent on immigration for economic growth that I don't see any chance a hard right anti immigrant party will ever do well in Canada.
            Except the a lot of immigrants are coming from conservative backward cultures still living like its 2000 yrs ago.

            Did you see any visible immigrants at all in the pride parades? Exactly.

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              #7
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              This country is so diverse and dependent on immigration for economic growth that I don't see any chance a hard right anti immigrant party will ever do well in Canada.
              Can you elaborate on why you believe this to be true? Honest question. I have seen this statement before but in my experience I have yet to see this to be true, and I work in a broad spectrum of industries.

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                #8
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                Its going to be interesting to see if Scheer can keep a lid on the intolerant anti immigrant side of his party?

                There are so many recent immigrants and descendants in Canada it is going to be hard to win without them.

                This country is so diverse and dependent on immigration for economic growth that I don't see any chance a hard right anti immigrant party will ever do well in Canada.
                I don't think it would be very hard to get the support of legal landed immigrants to put an end to the illegal crossers. This policy is spitting is their face for going through due process......why do we have a legal process if we are letting everyone in? This'll be huge in the Quebec election.

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                  #9
                  'Its going to be interesting to see if Scheer can keep a lid on the intolerant anti immigrant side of his party?"

                  Let me rephrase that you.

                  Its going to be interesting to see if Buttshead can keep a lid on the intolerant, anti-Canadian side of his Liberal leader?"

                  LOL

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Taiga View Post
                    Can you elaborate on why you believe this to be true? Honest question. I have seen this statement before but in my experience I have yet to see this to be true, and I work in a broad spectrum of industries.

                    https://www.conferenceboard.ca/press/newsrelease/2018/05/15/imagining-canada-s-economy-without-immigration?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

                    Imagining Canada’s Economy Without Immigration

                    Ottawa, May 15, 2018—If Canada were to shut its doors to immigrants completely, its labour force and economic growth would shrink significantly. A new report by The Conference Board of Canada estimates that economic growth would slow from a trend rate of 1.9 per cent to an average of 1.3 per cent annually.

                    “While it is unlikely that Canada would stop immigration completely, building this scenario helps us better understand the contributions of newcomers to Canada’s economy,” said Kareem El-Assal, Senior Research Associate, Immigration, The Conference Board of Canada. “If it stopped immigration, Canada would experience a shrinking labour force, weak economic growth, and greater challenges funding social services such as health care.”
                    Highlights

                    By 2034, immigration will account for 100 per cent of population growth as the number of deaths in Canada is expected to exceed births.
                    Canada’s potential economic growth would slow from 1.9 per cent to an average of 1.3 per cent annually without immigration.
                    In a no-immigration world, 26.9 per cent of the population would be 65 and over by 2040.

                    The economy has grown in real terms by about 2.2 per cent annually over the past five years. The combination of Canada’s aging population and low birth rate is hindering labour force and economic growth. In the decades to come, real GDP growth is expected to average 1.9 per cent assuming Canada continues to gradually increase its inflow of newcomers. However, if Canada does not welcome any immigrants over the next 20 years, Canada’s economic growth would slow to an average 1.3 per cent annually.

                    Economic impact of no immigration vs more immigration

                    The report, Canada 2040: No Immigration vs. More Immigration, shows that in a no-immigration world, Canada’s population would age more rapidly. By 2040, 26.9 per cent of the population would be 65 and over, compared with 22.4 per cent if Canada gradually increases its immigration levels. Meanwhile the ratio of workers to retirees would drop from 3.6 to 2.0.

                    Under this scenario, paying for social services such as health care, which becomes more expensive as the population ages, would be even more difficult for Canada. Governments across Canada would likely need to increase taxes to compensate for the declining number of workers. Additionally, with a shrinking labour force, modest domestic demand, and the prospects of fiscal pressures and tax hikes, firms would likely forego operations in Canada, resulting in lower levels of business investment.

                    To help offset the negative economic and fiscal impacts of a shrinking labour force in a no-immigration world, Canada would need to increase productivity through technological advancement to substitute workers. However, even with optimistic productivity assumptions, replicating the potential output Canada could achieve through positive labour force growth would require significant increases in both public and private investments—a situation that is unlikely in a low economic growth and potentially higher tax environment.

                    Currently, immigration accounts for 71 per cent of Canada’s population growth and has accounted for as much as 90 per cent of labour force growth in recent years. By 2034, the number of deaths in Canada is anticipated to exceed births and immigration is expected to account for 100 per cent of population growth. Boosting immigration to 1 per cent of Canada’s population (about 400,000 immigrants per year) by the early 2030s—up from 290,000 in 2017—would help to keep Canada’s population, labour force, and economy growing at a modest rate.

                    The Conference Board of Canada is hosting the Canadian Immigration Summit 2018 on May 30-31 in Ottawa to explore how to strengthen Canada’s immigration system.

                    For more information contact

                    Corporate Communications
                    613-526-3280
                    corpcomm@conferenceboard.ca

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                      #11
                      Why did Steven Harper still bring in significant numbers of immigrants and refugees? Conservatives support immigration as well for economic reasons.

                      The reason so many refugees and immigrants are crossing the border illegally is Trump has driven them across with his policies and the safe third country agreements means they cant apply for refugee status at regular border crossings if they come through the US first.

                      Only a small percentage of border crossers will be granted refugee status in Canada. The border can never be effectively shut to refugees unless you build a wall. Has that worked in the US? Nope

                      The US is dependent on illegals to do their dirty jobs.

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                        #12
                        Maxime Bernier fuels speculation he will launch new political party
                        Laura Stone
                        Daniel Leblanc Parliamentary reporter
                        Ottawa
                        Published August 23, 2018
                        Updated 3 hours ago

                        Former leadership candidate Maxime Bernier will not attend the start of the Conservative convention in Halifax, fueling speculation that he could quit the Tories and launch his own movement or party.

                        Mr. Bernier will announce his plans at a news conference in Ottawa at 1 p.m. on Thursday. The announcement comes after his top adviser, libertarian thinker Martin Masse, quit his part-time job at the Montreal Economic Institute to work alongside Mr. Bernier on a new political course.

                        Mr. Bernier issued a challenge to the leadership of the party on Wednesday on Twitter, showcasing growing discontent with Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer who beat him for the top job in the party last year.

                        The public rift started when Mr. Bernier was ousted from his critic role in June. The Quebec MP had alleged Mr. Scheer won the leadership in large part because he had the support of “fake Conservatives” set up by the dairy lobby. Mr. Bernier had angered that group because he argued the supply management in Canada’s agricultural sector should be scrapped.

                        Mr. Bernier’s news conference will come shortly before a meeting of the Conservative caucus, where he was set to face questions from his colleagues who are angry over a series of recent tweets on the issue of immigration and multiculturalism.

                        Some Conservative MPs were speculating on Thursday that Mr. Bernier could be quitting the caucus and forming his own party.

                        Mr. Bernier did not respond to a request for comment.

                        Over the past few weeks, Mr. Bernier has become increasingly isolated from his former political allies.

                        Conservative MP Tony Clement, who supported Mr. Bernier in the 2017 leadership race, said Mr. Bernier has “zero” caucus support.

                        Still, Mr. Clement said it’s “too soon to tell” what impact it would have on the federal Conservatives if Mr. Bernier forms his own party.

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                          #13
                          Justin Trudeau must be jumping up and down at the prospect of a divided conservative electorate.

                          Who would alienated western conservatives support since Scheer is too middle of the road?

                          Bernier will need Quebec voters so that means he will cowtow to Quebec in the end.

                          How will that go over with westerners who hate Quebec and all it stands for?

                          Le Reform party 2.0 with a Libertarian Quebecer at the head?

                          Hey 2-3 more terms with Justin couldn't be all that bad!

                          LOL

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                            #14
                            Yes appears they have shot themselves in the foot. Bernier quits conservative party and starting a new conservative party.... Only in Canada.

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                              #15
                              agree bucket, the media was quick to dox her, and that gave them a reason not to continue to pursue trudeau with answers about where and why isn't trudeau paying up for all the " illegal economic migrants " his government is letting in.

                              there are thousands of Philippineos, living and working in Saskatchewan, and I would bet virtually every single one of them are here legally. I'm also sure, they are sick of watching all those " illegal economic migrants " walking across the border and jumping the que ahead of the spouses and children they want to unite with here in Saskatchewan.

                              bucket, notice the difference in how the RCMP man-handled that old lady in Quebec vs. how the RCMP helps carry luggage for the " illegal economic migrants " walking across the border !

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