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So if supply management issue will save Canada then why not?
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[QUOTE=caseih;388040]Originally posted by grassfarmer View PostHmmm sounds familiar. Speaking of which did anyone else hear the Rona Ambrose interview on NAFTA at the weekend when she said the CWB was a supply management system. Was surprised she made that comment - thought she'd have known better than that.[/QUOTE
well it kinda was , 2/3 of farmers quit growing wheat because of it , so it did manage the supply
I think she is smarter than all three of the leaders of the 3 parties put together , fwiw
Oh well we have a has been politician advising lawyers on a pipeline that has been denied and he's posting about people who lost their jobs while collecting his pay check for a failure of getting it done. What a world.
When you think of all these useless people getting big bucks and pensions for knowing nothing. Farmers earn every penny of payment market subsidy or otherwise.
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Originally posted by Sheepwheat View PostMy kids would like to raise more turkeys and chickens, and one daughter wants to sell her goat milk and cheese, but sm doesn’t allow for it.
Originally posted by Stampsguy View Post
I may be corrected on this but I believe New Zealand used to have sm years ago then took it away from their dairy farmers. Some pain at first but now their industry is doing better than ever.
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Grass, that's the major problem is the jacking up of quota prices and then adding them to cost of production. Quota was free and should have remained so, those that talk about what it would cost to buy out the quotas,, why buy something back that was a gift in the first place, most of the quota is still in the family that got it free in family transfers with inflated price.
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Originally posted by grassfarmer View PostYet more false information - there is absolutely no restriction on goats milk or cheese under supply management. Your kids want to raise more than 999 chickens? whats the turkey limit in SK 300? Lots of opportunity there for enterprising kids or as add on businesses for adults.
Will have to look into the goat milk issue further. A dairy farmer told me it was restricted. Go figure? And yes, my kids would like to raise more egg layers. Capped at 299. And meat birds are at 999 per year. So we are limited to two batches of only 499.5. Worst is turkeys, capped at 99. My youngest daughter wants to graze them with the sheep, but can only do 99? Ridiculous. We could sell 500 tomorrow morning, without even trying...
Our family wants to raise and market far superior meat products than is currently available, and on a large scale. But we can’t, because of sm. The market is certainly there. We never have enough meat birds. We already make city deliveries, and would like to make it more worth our while, but we are restricted. Granted, few people are like us and want to do the work. But for people like us, the restrictions are ridiculous, and hold us back. Thanks to a few quota farmers, who are obviously fearful to try to compete in a real life market, against a far superior product.
Will look closer into the goat milk thing. Funny that a dairy guy shut me down! 😂Last edited by Sheepwheat; Sep 4, 2018, 08:38.
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Originally posted by agboy View Post........ look what S-M has done to the small family farm !......
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What about sm poultry and eggs? Some years back guy was around doing oil business and was a grain farmer and had an egg laying enterprise but shut it in cause profit was so pitiful they needed to expand to like a million chickens or it wasn’t worth it. I don’t give a crap about sm but isn’t it foolish when you need a million chickens to make a living? Or once free quota is worth so much? Hats off to folks willing to pull tits 24/7 and deal with poultry cause it isn’t my cup of tea. I’m torn about this cause guys in the dairy side appear to be doing well and I’m not a jealous guy and happy for them but it’s ****ing stupid quota is traded like a commodity and has the value it does. It almost appears to be an entitlement. That is what it is wrong. Trump and the cluster**** of overproduction in the states aside sm is alright for Canada and I’d really hate to see it gone for a vapid reason such as someone trying to buy a few votes.
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Originally posted by grassfarmer View PostYeah, kept them in business - prosperous dairy farms making a good living off a quarter section. While grain takes how many thousands acres? Ranching is generally supported by off-farm income. SM dairy is the most successful sector of Canadian agriculture so let's not throw it away based on jealousy and misinformation.
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Originally posted by Sheepwheat View PostWhere are the one quarter dairy farms? I worked in the winter for a dairy supply company, and have yet to go to a farm with less than 250 cows and lots of land. And I have visited a lot of dairies.
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