So if supply management issue will save Canada then why not?

[the big wheel]

Why not have the conservatives come out and say it should be gone to make a better deal for the rest of Canada?
Severalnon this forum chriticizing liberals for not bending on the issue of supply so why doesn't the conservatives come out and say this. It would then make it a non issue in the next election for either party if both support it or want it gone.

But as it is some of you expect the liberals to sacrifice it which obviously will cost major seats in Ontario yet won't commit the conservatives? This is coming from someone as it stands would vote conservative if election was today.

[dalek]

Why not have the conservatives come out and say it should be gone to make a better deal for the rest of Canada?
Severalnon this forum chriticizing liberals for not bending on the issue of supply so why doesn't the conservatives come out and say this. It would then make it a non issue in the next election for either party if both support it or want it gone.

But as it is some of you expect the liberals to sacrifice it which obviously will cost major seats in Ontario yet won't commit the conservatives? This is coming from someone as it stands would vote conservative if election was today.

Sacrificing SM wouldn’t cost a single seat in Ontario the way ridings are distributed. It may even gain a couple

[Ronski]

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/full-text-the-dairy-lobby-briefing-binder-found-on-the-floor-of-the-conservative-convention

This is why

[macdon02]

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/full-text-the-dairy-lobby-briefing-binder-found-on-the-floor-of-the-conservative-convention

This is why

Exactly. We don't have a party only an anti liberal vote.

[macdon02]

[sumdumguy]

If one industry with 4800 dairy producers can hold up the fate of a country, its just ridiculous. Why not have a national plebiscite, maybe they will find our really no one cares about dairy that much, just like western farmers. Has anyone heard the pollsters on this issue?

[agstar77]

Sure why not? The Cons sold out grain farmers and see how rich you all are.

[the big wheel]

Just because supply management would end that doesn't mean end of dairy here or would it? They'd have to compete like we have too. Ifor one would still buy Canadian in fact would pay more. I chose lots of vegetables etc from Alberta and Sask producers.

[furrowtickler]

Sure why not? The Cons sold out grain farmers and see how rich you all are.

We are far better off than before.
I kinda like getting paid in full for the grain I deliver

[grassfarmer]

Sacrificing SM wouldn’t cost a single seat in Ontario the way ridings are distributed. It may even gain a couple

Wouldn't gain any concessions from the Americans in any case so why throw it away?

[jazz]

Wouldn't gain any concessions from the Americans in any case so why throw it away?

Because its a socialist marxist construct that has no place in a capitalist system. And its stupid to let a tiny fraction of the electorate wag the dog.

[sawfly1]

For the most part I am guessing it probably would be the end.
The American guys on other sites say there is so much over capacity in the business and the huge , business dairy
Operations thousands of cows. Ran with cheap migrant labour
ARE running the small ones out.

Even with the US government dumping 1.8 billion $ a year
Into the industry.
They are still going broke.
They say Wisconsin alone could supply Canada's milk.

Not really about helping US farmers.
More about the huge dairy corporations taking over the business here.

It is a social program here. Keeps. Smaller operations
A float. People on farms making money.

Once it is gone, what is there to stop the big corps from
Dumping milk here .
I am sure they will not last long.
And it will be the same model here as the states.

IF that is what you want. That is what you will get.

[jazz]

It is a social program here. Keeps. Smaller operations
A float. People on farms making money.

well sawfly, thats nice and all. But nobody saved my home town in the 80s when world wheat oversupply cut prices by 2/3rd so forgive me if I find it hard to shed a tear. Thats life. We were told to either get bigger, lower costs or get out. And all 3 happened.

The cost profile for dairy production cant differ much between canada and the US except for the currency exchange. Maybe overpaying for quota license is the problem. Same as it was here when land prices skyrocketed in the 80s. Govt let that correct on its own.

Only one reason its protected - because Quebec. Thats all you need to know.

[captainDAVE]

We are far better off than before.
I kinda like getting paid in full for the grain I deliver

Except the mission $10 billion+ over the last 6 years

[GDR]

well sawfly, thats nice and all. But nobody saved my home town in the 80s when world wheat oversupply cut prices by 2/3rd so forgive me if I find it hard to shed a tear. Thats life. We were told to either get bigger, lower costs or get out. And all 3 happened.

The cost profile for dairy production cant differ much between canada and the US except for the currency exchange. Maybe overpaying for quota license is the problem. Same as it was here when land prices skyrocketed in the 80s. Govt let that correct on its own.

Only one reason its protected - because Quebec. Thats all you need to know.

Clearly you don't understand the SM system, livestock or economics.

Since you have a selfish tone think about the ramifications to yourself of what you are asking for, here are a couple to think about-

Quota bailout would cost billions of your tax dollars

Billions of dollars in farmers hands that would be taxable if not reinvested in land would skyrocket land prices

Dairy would struggle to compete and expose huge risk and cost to ag programs

Dairy farms are profitable now and are cash cows for government's by paying taxes

Obviously not all dairy would disappear in Canada but there are approx 960,000 dairy cows in Canada if it took 8 or 9 acres per cow to raise I'd guess that's 8000000+ acres that is not growing canola and wheat and it's fertile how is that gonna help grain prices and movement

Who knows on reality of stable milk supply but anyone who thinks it's gonna get cheaper when it's already cheaper than pop or juice or even lots of water is out to lunch

The list goes on and on!