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Wakey Wakey ag farm groups and politicians. Houston we have a Problem.

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    #11
    Get your gpos market managers in limited space at terminals if you dont have a target you dont have a chance.

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      #12
      It's to early yet.
      Will take at least another month before the media gets out of the cities.
      Plus forecast is good by enviro.

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        #13
        Originally posted by jazz View Post
        Same here, but the prospect of having a thousand acres to get off vs 8,000 is a different beast.

        Here is a little known fact in farming. Risk rises exponentially with the size of your operation. A few BTOs around me learned that lesson in 2010 when all their lentil acres when for mush.

        Here is another little know fact in farming. You will never get rich growing commodities. Paying big rent, big iron and big inputs and having no equity is a dead end. You will make a buck one year, then give it back the next. Commodities are a distinctly break even prospect. The value is in the land, period and honestly spinning your wheels on un-owned property is insanity.

        Canada is the only modern country with the most mega farms. More farmers per acreage in EU and USA. Thats why they are supported.
        You got an early start on drugs if you think this event isn't going to hurt smaller farmers also. And I m not talking about someone with a quarter of land that works on the oil rigs. Someone that makes a living off the land.
        Programs are just as shitty for all sizes.

        The only way I survived was expand not what I wanted but that's what FCC and the banks told me the optimum farm varies. But they won't even wast their time with smaller operators that have more Than enough equity they want the big deals like pike broadass one earth that don't have he equity but yet can walk in and get what ever they want.
        and that's another issue that needs some intervention on who the industry is supporting

        But right now the immediate is the damage that has occurred.

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          #14
          Tell me please what you would expect the govt to do about this? Weather has and will always be our nemesis. Nothing new here.

          A conscious decision was made long ago that it was too expensive to support low population rural areas no matter how much wealth they produce. US and EU heavily invest in rural communities. Doesnt make it right but the ship has sailed. If we even got Trudeaus attention, he would just come out and lecture us on climate change.


          And for full disclosure, I am probably the smallest most indebted farmer on this forum. No job to bail me out.

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            #15
            Originally posted by jazz View Post
            Tell me please what you would expect the govt to do about this? Weather has and will always be our nemesis. Nothing new here.

            A conscious decision was made long ago that it was too expensive to support low population rural areas no matter how much wealth they produce. US and EU heavily invest in rural communities. Doesnt make it right but the ship has sailed. If we even got Trudeaus attention, he would just come out and lecture us on climate change.


            And for full disclosure, I am probably the smallest most indebted farmer on this forum. No job to bail me out.
            Maybe don't spend a billion on carbon sequester to start. Stadium water irrigation for friends. Etc etc. Where is the premium money from crop insurance going?

            Who s getting agristability? And that grow forward bullshit going to corps that I think go broke to pull all that gov money and run.

            Where is invigor and Monsanto they told me I d get 60 bushels to the acre so who's covering the difference? Warranty should be at that seed price.

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              #16
              i expect governments to help like they do with the auto sector....more recently the steel and aluminum industry...the bombardier family ....the grain industry etc etc...


              You guys know P&H received 10million from the federal government for their flour mill.

              its ****ing disgusting that farmers think getting an adhoc payment is a bad thing while every other industry relies on government help either thru direct help, tax breaks or royalty holidays...

              WTF is wrong with us?????

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                #17
                It just pisses me off all this bullshit talk about huge yields and just a few guys had poor crops and what it snowed can’t be must be fake news.

                Farm dunk telling every news outlet that will listen it’s hreat spending and seed that farmers are able to boost crops and get big yields with no rain.

                It’s bullshit from all.

                But when their are guys who can’t even get started Harvest that’s awfull.

                But his is Canada we’re all the parasites get covered and the Farmers get the shaft even from our own producer groups.

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                  #18
                  how did farms survive when Devine made sure there was money for tough times....ask yourself how many farms would still be here without those payments????

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                    #19
                    I agree he worked for farmers.

                    But we get slapped with a 50% tarrif and not a peep.

                    Yea canada is great

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                      #20
                      Wonder if those global ag risk crooks will finally get knocked out of the game. Same as those ICC fools.

                      Look all I am saying is if we want change and better risk options, we have to be the instruments of that, not govt. Devine may have supported farmers but he did the same thing Trudeau is doing now, just taking funds from debt and transferring them to affected groups. We know that bill will come due one day.

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