Making New Land

[foragefarmer]

Klaus

So what's the big deal, you farmed in Manitoba and now in Sk, who do you think opened those lands? Pioneers who cleared the land with horses in many cases and no modern equipment. That's something note worthy!

Now you post pictures of land being open in Argentina initiated by a government with all sorts of modern equipment which is on the verge if not already dealing with economic collapse. So what!


"Argentina's currency woes have deepened in recent weeks despite determined policy responses on the part of the government and the central bank, as well as a $50bn financial package from the IMF.

The country is now the world's riskiest sovereign borrower behind Venezuela. It's currency, the peso, has halved in value this year against the dollar. Today, Argentina is on financial life support, with the highest interest rates in the world."


Are you thinking of setting new roots soon?

[Guest]

Hope it works better than the Alberta version - the land cleared up at Ft Vermillion/La Crete in the last decade. Anyone got an update on that project?

what's goin on there ,haven't been for a few years , but was pretty impressed last time I was there? their long summer days sure helped them
couldn't begin to count the times I have driven AB Hwy 35 N , beautiful flat land

[sumdumguy]

How many times have I heard the saying, “ they aren’t making any more”? (With respect to land)

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Hope it works better than the Alberta version - the land cleared up at Ft Vermillion/La Crete in the last decade. Anyone got an update on that project?

I don't know of any specific "project" up there. But know some organic farmers from that exact area. They clear new land, it is certified organic immediately, nearly all of their neighbors are organic as well, so no issues with setbacks or contamination. Growing high value crops including hemp, buyers pay freight, something about that climate makes for very high quality that buyers can't get enough of, and making very good money.

[Guest]

Klaus

So what's the big deal, you farmed in Manitoba and now in Sk, who do you think opened those lands? Pioneers who cleared the land with horses in many cases and no modern equipment. That's something note worthy!

Now you post pictures of land being open in Argentina initiated by a government with all sorts of modern equipment which is on the verge if not already dealing with economic collapse. So what!


"Argentina's currency woes have deepened in recent weeks despite determined policy responses on the part of the government and the central bank, as well as a $50bn financial package from the IMF.

The country is now the world's riskiest sovereign borrower behind Venezuela. It's currency, the peso, has halved in value this year against the dollar. Today, Argentina is on financial life support, with the highest interest rates in the world."


Are you thinking of setting new roots soon?

I think the point he is trying to. make is that they are trying to adress problems in Ag ?
Harper didn't give a shit , this guy even less?
biggest concern here is trans , gay, rights etc. , I couldn't care less about those issues one way or another , but there is a lot bigger fish to fry , as they say, here in this country right now
people have lost sight of what our forefathers knew , if Ag is healthy , all is well .

[Wheatking]

Here is some bush clearing from Siberia I think. Some of it looks similar to our land before it was broke, I think. To say they aren't making more farmland is an absolute lie only propagated by those that are dumb or trying to justify buying expensive land

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https://youtu.be/lqA3-wbyVKY

[foragefarmer]

Case

"I think the point he is trying to. make is that they are trying to adress problems in Ag ? "

How so, I know you follow commodity prices. More production, driving world prices down. Will Argentina's farmers be paid with the 50 BILLION borrowed from the IMF?

[Klause]

I don't know of any specific "project" up there. But know some organic farmers from that exact area. They clear new land, it is certified organic immediately, nearly all of their neighbors are organic as well, so no issues with setbacks or contamination. Growing high value crops including hemp, buyers pay freight, something about that climate makes for very high quality that buyers can't get enough of, and making very good money.

Ya... I have friends that farm there. Shorter season but organic crops mature faster, more rain less heat lends itself to more cultivation...

Since crops are higher value transportation is easier to swallow.

New land never chem applied so no residues to start with and can practice conservation ag instead of regenerative ag.



Not sure what you mean, grass?

[Klause]

There is also a project in north central Ontario some where . One local guy folded up tent ⛺️ and went out there.

Ya. The great and little clay belts...

The great clay belt is 16 million acres. Fertile black dirt in a high rainfall area. Subsidies to plclear the land and install irrigation (500/ac)

Can still proof up land in that region... Yields are huge compared to southern/Central SK/AB


The Yukon is also handing out quarter sections to proof up... As they are trying to grow more locally instead of hauling everything north.

Closer to Pacific and microclimates in valleys actually make it possible to grow decent crops.

[farming101]

Here is some bush clearing from Siberia I think. Some of it looks similar to our land before it was broke, I think. To say they aren't making more farmland is an absolute lie only propagated by those that are dumb or trying to justify buying expensive land

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/lqA3-wbyVKY" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

https://youtu.be/lqA3-wbyVKY

LOL I guess they know what they're doing....

[Klause]

Klaus

So what's the big deal, you farmed in Manitoba and now in Sk, who do you think opened those lands? Pioneers who cleared the land with horses in many cases and no modern equipment. That's something note worthy!

Now you post pictures of land being open in Argentina initiated by a government with all sorts of modern equipment which is on the verge if not already dealing with economic collapse. So what!


"Argentina's currency woes have deepened in recent weeks despite determined policy responses on the part of the government and the central bank, as well as a $50bn financial package from the IMF.

The country is now the world's riskiest sovereign borrower behind Venezuela. It's currency, the peso, has halved in value this year against the dollar. Today, Argentina is on financial life support, with the highest interest rates in the world."


Are you thinking of setting new roots soon?

Sinply showing that they are indeed making more farmland. That's what

Argentinas currency worse have a lot more to do with the China/us trade war than anything in the country.


China uses Argentina as a major plank in OBOR (one belt one road). The USA wants to stop China's influence from expanding so the USa is pulling funds out of Argentina and most other developing nation's China has an interest in.

All this idle bullshit talk from American media is just that idle bullshit


Argentina has more resources than we do, more people to extract it, lower cost of living and far better access to tidewater. In the last decade also far greater infrastructure investment.


The only thing that deperates us from them is Americans like us but they hate Argentina...


We can learn a lot of lessons from their history...

IE what happens when the quality of your leaders steadily declines.

I don't care what colour you vote. When we had Martin, Layton, and Harper, we had three competent leaders.


Now with Singh, Trudeau, and Sheer with have the three stooges... And once that decline starts it's a disease and oes on for a long time destroying the nation state.



There, that's what I want to get across with my post.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Sinply showing that they are indeed making more farmland. That's what

Argentinas currency worse have a lot more to do with the China/us trade war than anything in the country.


China uses Argentina as a major plank in OBOR (one belt one road). The USA wants to stop China's influence from expanding so the USa is pulling funds out of Argentina and most other developing nation's China has an interest in.

All this idle bullshit talk from American media is just that idle bullshit


Argentina has more resources than we do, more people to extract it, lower cost of living and far better access to tidewater. In the last decade also far greater infrastructure investment.


The only thing that deperates us from them is Americans like us but they hate Argentina...


We can learn a lot of lessons from their history...

IE what happens when the quality of your leaders steadily declines.

I don't care what colour you vote. When we had Martin, Layton, and Harper, we had three competent leaders.


Now with Singh, Trudeau, and Sheer with have the three stooges... And once that decline starts it's a disease and oes on for a long time destroying the nation state.



There, that's what I want to get across with my post.

And on that, we can mostly agree. Argentina's track record for leadership has been nothing short of abysmal. Going from one of the richest nations to an economic basket case in spite of all the benefits of resources, geography, demographics, climate etc. But I doubt we will learn from history, we need to make all the same mistakes ourselves.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Here is some bush clearing from Siberia I think. Some of it looks similar to our land before it was broke, I think. To say they aren't making more farmland is an absolute lie only propagated by those that are dumb or trying to justify buying expensive land

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/lqA3-wbyVKY" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

https://youtu.be/lqA3-wbyVKY

Interesting video. I suspect that isn't new land. Judging by the size and age of the trees, this must be land that has sat idle for a decade or three and the trees have taken over. Most of the pics don't show any large stumps or roots, just mellow soil under those saplings, so it has been broke before.

[biglentil]

No such thing as new land however there is land that will never be suitable again for food production due to urban sprawl.

[WiltonRanch]

Need to make a trip to La Crete sometime. Relations up there say it’s something else. Just don’t get any dental work done there😀