Trade Changes USMCA

[the big wheel]

All I know is the dairy industry will receive a billion plus dollar handout because of the new trade deal....

Meanwhile as the harvest drags out and pulse prices are in the shitter while India supports their farmers with high prices and no one disputes it.....farmers in Western Canada will once again mortgage their farms against the treasuries of countries that support farmers...those countries are in the EU, the US, India, China , Russia etc....

It's not just pulses that is the issue
Cost of drying, crop insurance. It covering the loss etc etc

[jamesb]

This wheat grade and variety issue is something my area is familiar with. Forgive me to oversimplify this.
Old wheat board days we had Dark northern in the US and Hard Red in Canada. In the last 25 years we have seen lots of US DNS varieties come north. Grandin and Alsen were a couple of varieties that had a lot of interest north of the border. When the grain commission / wheat board put the kibosh on those high yielding (at the time) I put it up to the old debates, keep the US wheat out of Canada, keeping Canadian HRS only on the CWB marketing program.
Fast forward a few years, CWB is gone, I can an do see to any US elevator that is prepared to buy Canadian wheat. Some don't want to comingle grain because of PL480 and other things. There was a couple year period post CWB that saw the Canadian basis way out of wack compared to the US elevators. Since then however basis level are similar on both sides of the border for the most part.
One of the sore points is that on the Canadian side regulations never were really changed post CWB to allow US wheat north , regardless of weather it made economic sense. Not far from us is the Ceres elevator at North Gate, that feeds directly into the BNSF rail line. It has been the case that it has been virtuously impossible for US farmers to haul into this elevator, even canola I understand. You can understand why a US farmer would get chocked up over that one, especially when the only rail goes directly into the US. That being said, back to DNS versus HRS, a number of years ago a lot of us closer to the border were growing the higher yielding DNS types. Syngenta has some varieties grown in North Dakota that yield phenomenally. What happened is that over the past few years that the spread between DNS and HRS at all the elevators widened considerably, up to $3 per bus. The reality is that the specs in the HRS have higher demand and value than the specs in DNS. Its my understanding that this is a premium that US and others are paying for. I think that with the changes that some US wheat may come north but dame little.

[grassfarmer]

All I know is the dairy industry will receive a billion plus dollar handout because of the new trade deal....

Don't know about the dairy industry but I'm told dairy farmers have not received a cent from the compensation that Harper announced when he gave away market access when he was under no pressure to do so.

[LWeber]

Don't know about the dairy industry but I'm told dairy farmers have not received a cent from the compensation that Harper announced when he gave away market access when he was under no pressure to do so.

Really Grassfarmer...

Do some research; when did Harper give away market access?

Or do you only correct spelling errors?

[bucket]

Why does everyone defer to what Harper did....I hear that in question period as a standard answer.....


Better start looking at what the liberal record is by October 2019 because harper isn't in politics anymore.....and BTW it's starting to show that people miss a guy like him....he showed up for work everyday. ...


Trudeau ....not so much....

[shtferbrains]

Canada a world power house

Good explanation of article 32:10 here:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-04/nafta-s-china-clause-is-latest-blow-to-trudeau-s-asia-ambitions

This was the lesser of evils to accept what the United States had basically thrust upon us,” MacKay said. “I don’t think the gun was necessarily to our head -- it was in our mouth, with the trigger cocked and a full chamber.”

[grassfarmer]

Really Grassfarmer...

Do some research; when did Harper give away market access?

Or do you only correct spelling errors?

I was referring to the Harper Government giving access to 3.25% of the Canadian market for dairy agreed to during the negotiation of the TPP agreement. This was on top of the 2% conceded during the CETA agreement negotiations.

[LWeber]

I was referring to the Harper Government giving access to 3.25% of the Canadian market for dairy agreed to during the negotiation of the TPP agreement. This was on top of the 2% conceded during the CETA agreement negotiations.

Where do you see Harper’s signature?
Trump pulled out after he was elected.
Keep spouting the NDP & NFU dogma.

Trudeau and the rest of the Cabinet were sworn in by Governor General David Johnston on November 4, 2015.

Justin Trudeau traveled to Brussels on 30 October 2016 to sign CETA on behalf of Canada. The European Parliament approved the deal on 15 February 2017. CETA entered into force provisionally on 21 September 2017. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau marked the European Parliament's passing of the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA), hailing it as a potential model for future trade deals while addressing the concerns of those who opposed it.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is a defunct proposed trade agreement between Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, Vietnam, and United States signed on 4 February 2016, which was not ratified as required and did not take effect. The other 11 TPP countries agreed in May 2017 to revive it and reached agreement in January 2018. In March 2018, the 11 countries signed the revised version of the agreement, called Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership.

[grassfarmer]

Where do you see Harper’s signature?

Oh yeah, I forgot he got booted out of office before he could sign either deal. His administration negotiated away the market access figures I quoted on both deals however. The facts stand.