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    #25
    Originally posted by caseih View Post
    Its the 200k btu 18”
    Thanks,

    I was hoping that 100,000 Btu's was going to work that fast, but was doubtful. 200,000 makes more sense.

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      #26
      Originally posted by poorboy View Post
      Thanks,

      I was hoping that 100,000 Btu's was going to work that fast, but was doubtful. 200,000 makes more sense.
      no problem , if you want anymore info just pm me and I can give you my cell and you can text anytime .
      good luck !

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        #27
        Originally posted by poorboy View Post
        CaseIh,

        Could you expand a little more on your in bin drying with supplemental heat please.

        I know you are putting 2000 bushels of canola in a bin, not sure if its 2000 bushels of wheat also when you do wheat? What diameter hopper bins do you use and which air system in the hopper bins? Also what horsepower fan and is it a full centrifugal or an inline centrifugal and lastly what btu's is the heater that you are using?

        Sounds like you have a system that is working and I am all for learning how to better my operation. I take it that you have not had any rain falling inside the bin and making the canola or wheat stick to the sidewall of the bin and that you are not turning the canola or wheat during the drying process, is this correct?

        Still 3" of snow on the ground here east of Calgary. Ground is too cold to melt the snow. What is the upper limit for moisture that you would put into a hopper bin with your heater system for say canola and wheat? I am thinking that 15% canola and 20% wheat would be upper end, but hoping to hear from those with first hand experience.

        I have an old dryer that has not been used in 20-25 years, but it looks like that would take 2 months of get running, so really interested in this supplemental heat and aeration system. Only tried it a few times before with mixed results.
        sorry , hadn't read all your post
        it's just a 2000 14 ft westeel on a hopper with an inverted v air system , simplest there is , the one I'm using now .

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          #28
          Originally posted by caseih View Post
          sorry , hadn't read all your post
          it's just a 2000 14 ft westeel on a hopper with an inverted v air system , simplest there is , the one I'm using now .
          Should have massive air flow with a 7 hp fan on that size of bin. Probably really helps to get the moist air out of the bin.

          Hopefully Indian summer comes soon so I can get in the field.

          Thanks for the insight into your bin drying set up.

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            #29
            Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
            On a safety note just a reminder if your pumping air into a hooper don't be standing under it or around near it when unloading the bin. Lots of that froze up or wet stuck stuff can stay and then let go I ve heard of guys wreck augers and trucks when bin colllapses


            Whats left of 4000 bushels binned at 17 now 8%.

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              #30
              Do you get lots of temp increase alarms in the summer with the temp cable that close to the rocket?

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                #31
                Originally posted by biglentil View Post


                Whats left of 4000 bushels binned at 17 now 8%.
                That's not bad, how long did it take.
                Usually 16 down to 10 or so takes about 5 to 6 days depending on the humidity and cold day or night roughly fill the bin to 4500.

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                  #32
                  Originally posted by TASFarms View Post
                  Do you get lots of temp increase alarms in the summer with the temp cable that close to the rocket?
                  Thats one of only two bins in the yard with those style of temp cables. I do not have the reader for them, been meaning to get one.

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                    #33
                    Biglentil,

                    What diameter hopper bin are you using? What size fan and heater? From earlier threads it sounded like you just ran it during the day, is that what you did?

                    Looked like it did a great job. Did you turn the bin at all during the drying?

                    Thanks

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                      #34
                      Originally posted by poorboy View Post
                      Biglentil,

                      What diameter hopper bin are you using? What size fan and heater? From earlier threads it sounded like you just ran it during the day, is that what you did?

                      Looked like it did a great job. Did you turn the bin at all during the drying?

                      Thanks
                      Pretty sure its 18', 5hp centrifugal fan, 375000 btu indirect heater, yes only filled tank with 25 gallons in the morning so it would run out by 6 pm or so. Did that 7 times seems around a point drop a pass is what to expect. Let the cool night air bring temp back down and pull additional moisture out. As the cool ambient air warms in the bin so does the air's moisture holding capacity. Sun on the tin, which we hardly had, keeps condensation and bin rain to a minimum when heat is on. If an insulated bin exists that would be ideal. The static pressure was higher than I liked as air temp at the bin's plenum was 70C. I might change the main jet to a smaller size and the air setting to reduce heaters output as it's a bit much. Reducing the volume of canola in the bin would have helped reduce static pressure, increaced cfm and reduced inlet temperature. I did rotate a load out after two runs just to make sure everything was ok and it had dropped to 14 so I knew we where on the right track. Like I said before a drier is best but for our area the odd supplemental heat and baby sitting does the trick.

                      Disclaimer: Taking canola off at 17 is not recommended and so is playing with fire, do so at your own risk and monitor closely!
                      Last edited by biglentil; Oct 9, 2018, 21:22.

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                        Went in at 14.5
                        5 nights heat and fan
                        6 days fan only
                        Came out dry and this is all that was stuck

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