Friday thank you notes

[SASKFARMER3]

Neat system furrow.

[poorboy]

The Diesel engine runs a friction plate .
Google them for more info .
All I know is that they work very well . Absolutely dry heat .
Just increase engine rpm to increase oil pressure and thus the heat generated.
We are running them around 160 to 180 deg F . Just pull a tandem load out after two days and let er go anouther day or two . Drying about 1 to 1.5 points per day.

They are used all over the oil patch in Alberta .
We fill the fuel tank about every 3-4 days.

You must have grain at 3% moisture grain with 160-180 F temps. Never hear of that much heat in an aeration bin.

Any problems with condensation or damaging the over dry grain while moving it?

[OvernOut]

600,000 btu . Yes we rented two of them . Set up on four 5000 bus bins .
There are larger ones at 1.2 mil btu

Furrow; do you mind me asking what the approx cost was to rent a 600K btu unit? I'm looking a Artic Therm or Conelly Max. The 700k btu Conelly is $2850/week and burns about 100gal fuel every 13hrs. How is the AT on fuel? Did you run them 24/7? How big are your air fans on bin? Any spoilage? how full did you fill the 5000's? I'm dealing with 26,000 cold barley that quite damp and want to get it down about 4 points to go to feedlot. Thanks.

[furrowtickler]

Furrow; do you mind me asking what the approx cost was to rent a 600K btu unit? I'm looking a Artic Therm or Conelly Max. The 700k btu Conelly is $2850/week and burns about 100gal fuel every 13hrs. How is the AT on fuel? Did you run them 24/7? How big are your air fans on bin? Any spoilage? how full did you fill the 5000's? I'm dealing with 26,000 cold barley that quite damp and want to get it down about 4 points to go to feedlot. Thanks.

Was $3600/month per unit
Still playing with amounts in bins
Looks like best best results are about 3500 bus in 5000 bus bin . Take 500 bus out after about 2 days to get damp cone off top and get the around rocket .
Fuel totally depends on how hard you run it . Still playing with that as well but 200 gals will last at least 50 hrs at around 2100 rpm at 40 psi oil pressure and 160 deg heat. They claim around 4 gal / hr .. it’s close .
Yes run 24/7.
5 hp fans
Some hang up on walls and cone of bin , but minimal when empty . No real spoilage
Trick is to move a tandem load out after 24 hrs or so . Moves out real dry stuff and gets your toughest grain around rocket.
Ideally a fan on top of bin to draw out excess moisture and condensation would be helpful. Some bins have those exhaust fans . We do not but are looking at that possible option
Again we got these set up just to temporarily dry some grain until conditions improved . Learning as we go here as well . But at the end of the day , they work and I don’t have to worry about propane burners , deliveries and it’s dry heat.

[furrowtickler]

You must have grain at 3% moisture grain with 160-180 F temps. Never hear of that much heat in an aeration bin.

Any problems with condensation or damaging the over dry grain while moving it?

Yes there is some condensation. A fan on top would be ideal to pull moisture right out of bin .
Yes some grain gets overdried if temp too high or you don’t move out some after a day or two.
We had zero issues at all at elevator with canola or wheat after drying it down.
Yes you could over dry and have issues if you put 20 moisture wheat in , hammer the heat and don’t rotate at all.
You can run these heaters up to well over 200 deg . If you did that of course there would be overdrying issues lol.

[furrowtickler]

What does it run on?

Just a Kabota Diesel engine .

[furrowtickler]

We did 2500 bus canola in one bin at 12.5 moisture down to 9 in 2 days at 150 deg . Cooled over night and hauled it in .
Again still learning as we go here.

[OvernOut]

Furrow; do you know if you're getting any moisture change when you cool the grain down and if so how much? How are you measuring your air temp? Are these temps you're talking about what the machine is set to or are you measuring it at the air fan on the bin? Conley guys said they're losing almost half the temp between what machine is set at and what the air is coming out of the rocket at. As a side note it sounds like these Conley guys are out to lunch with their pricing. They want $10,650 for a month rent!!! You're unit sounds just as good for 1/3 the price! I'm Arctic Therm a call...

[agstar77]

Thank you we are done tonight!

[furrowtickler]

Furrow; do you know if you're getting any moisture change when you cool the grain down and if so how much? How are you measuring your air temp? Are these temps you're talking about what the machine is set to or are you measuring it at the air fan on the bin? Conley guys said they're losing almost half the temp between what machine is set at and what the air is coming out of the rocket at. As a side note it sounds like these Conley guys are out to lunch with their pricing. They want $10,650 for a month rent!!! You're unit sounds just as good for 1/3 the price! I'm Arctic Therm a call...

Yes if anyone want tech info call them.
We got ours from Brett at Morinville .
They do have a 1-800 number .
They were excellent to talk to a give info on drying grain .

[hobbyfrmr]

If that cash went to revamping their super computers to generate the GDPS and RDPS models, it was a waste of cash. Those models have been the most consistently wrong out of all of them IMO this year.

yr.no

Who else can better predict the weather forecast in (place community name here), SK CANADA than a weather app from Norway?
They may be slightly off but no !ALERTS! at 4:30 am every day.
I don’t like the existing situation but good grief, give your balls a tug and look out the window, you will figure it out for yourself.
The reliance on technology for weather, machinery, agronomy, daily driving vehicles, domestic schedules/ marching orders is disgusting. Who is farming who?

[hobbyfrmr]

Furrow; do you mind me asking what the approx cost was to rent a 600K btu unit? I'm looking a Artic Therm or Conelly Max. The 700k btu Conelly is $2850/week and burns about 100gal fuel every 13hrs. How is the AT on fuel? Did you run them 24/7? How big are your air fans on bin? Any spoilage? how full did you fill the 5000's? I'm dealing with 26,000 cold barley that quite damp and want to get it down about 4 points to go to feedlot. Thanks.

Rent fir $2850.00/ week ?
You can buy a frost fighter heater for near that
I have not compared specs on the two heaters but I am quite sure you will burn more diesel with frost fighter. I used a frost fighter to add heat to aeration to dry hemp. It worked so well somebody stole it!!