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    #61
    In April the parlimentary budget officer (PB0) says the carbon tax will take about $10 billion off GDP growth or 1/2 a percent of growth by 2022. That's 10 billion out of almost a $2 Trillion dollar economy. That is significant, but the economy continues growing but at a slower rate. Not the end of the world by any measure.

    In order to put this in perspective what is the cost of climate change to the economy?

    "Real and rising costs are now being felt in two key areas: the economic and financial impact of increasingly severe weather, and the impact on public infrastructure.

    Climate change is already having a significant effect on the property and casualty-insurance industry, with immediate business implications for insurers and their clients. More frequent extreme weather events have increased the level of weather-related insurance claims for floods, forest fires and other catastrophic events, globally and locally. For example, the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development reports that annual losses from overland flooding have grown to more than US$40-billion annually in recent years; more flood events occurred in 2010-13 than in the whole decade of the 1980s."

    "Governments across Canada are engaged in trying to promote the reduction in GHG emissions at the lowest possible cost. Policy makers and the public can debate the pros and cons of the differing policy choices available; but we must also agree that there are costs to not taking action.

    "https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-the-costs-of-climate-change-are-rising/

    Glen Hodgson is a senior fellow at the Conference Board of Canada.

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      #62
      Must be nice to get paid to just TALK, BS, made up ideas, anything to get interviewed, scare the masses, etc... climate has always changed, will continue to change even if not one human was on earth. Laughable.

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        #63
        Originally posted by fjlip View Post
        Must be nice to get paid to just TALK, BS, made up ideas, anything to get interviewed, scare the masses, etc... climate has always changed, will continue to change even if not one human was on earth. Laughable.
        Go ahead ignore climate science and all the mounting evidence of human caused climate change. Nobody, not one political party in Canada is listening to deniers or taking them seriously. You might as well join the flat earth society.

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          #64
          There appears to be a strong and continued movement away from left-wing extremism of chuckchuck's type, Brazil being the latest to correct its wayward course:

          https://nationalpost.com/news/world/brazil-elects-far-right-president-worrying-rights-groups?video_autoplay=true https://nationalpost.com/news/world/brazil-elects-far-right-president-worrying-rights-groups?video_autoplay=true

          The political conditions in Brazil appear to mirror what is happening here.

          The people will put up with being fed leftist crap and corruption for only so long before they kick it to the curb like an overripe horse bun.
          Last edited by burnt; Oct 29, 2018, 11:10.

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            #65
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            Go ahead ignore climate science and all the mounting evidence of human caused climate change. Nobody, not one political party in Canada is listening to deniers or taking them seriously. You might as well join the flat earth society.
            Thats what were doin
            Your wastin your breath
            Sheeple will not be bullied , intimidated and called names anymore by the acid rain/global warming/climate change bullshit entitled assholes anymore
            The gore/suzuki types heyday is over
            The scam has run its course
            Onviously you are benifetting from the scam in whatever buisness you are in ?
            You might wanna look for another revenue stream
            Meanwhile us farmers are realizing there is no way we can pass along all the carbon tax that we will have passed onto us ; trucking , rail freight , fert man and trans , farm mach manufacturing , etc,etc,etc

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              #66
              Originally posted by caseih View Post
              Thats what were doin
              Your wastin your breath
              Sheeple will not be bullied , intimidated and called names anymore by the acid rain/global warming/climate change bullshit entitled assholes anymore
              The gore/suzuki types heyday is over
              The scam has run its course
              Onviously you are benifetting from the scam in whatever buisness you are in ?
              You might wanna look for another revenue stream
              Meanwhile us farmers are realizing there is no way we can pass along all the carbon tax that we will have passed onto us ; trucking , rail freight , fert man and trans , farm mach manufacturing , etc,etc,etc
              I am a denier ...proud of it....and the rest of society can go **** themselves into starvation or have the same results as the dinosaurs...Global warming didn't kill the beasts ...it was the ice age....

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                #67
                Originally posted by burnt View Post
                There appears to be a strong and continued movement away from left-wing extremism of chuckchuck's type, Brazil being the latest to correct its wayward course:

                https://nationalpost.com/news/world/brazil-elects-far-right-president-worrying-rights-groups?video_autoplay=true https://nationalpost.com/news/world/brazil-elects-far-right-president-worrying-rights-groups?video_autoplay=true

                The political conditions in Brazil appear to mirror what is happening here.

                The people will put up with being fed leftist crap and corruption for only so long before they kick it to the curb like an overripe horse bun.
                Fortunately we live in Canada. I don't hear Scheer or Ford gay bashing or making anti-immigrant speeches. If you think Brazil politics mirrors Canada you are thankfully mistaken.

                Germans also supported Hitler once and we know how that went.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  Fortunately we live in Canada. I don't hear Scheer or Ford gay bashing or making anti-immigrant speeches. If you think Brazil politics mirrors Canada you are thankfully mistaken.

                  Germans also supported Hitler once and we know how that went.

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                    #69
                    My god Chucky! Do you even believe the crap you spew?

                    More flooding from 2010-2013 than all the eighty's? Weren't the eighty's drought?

                    Insurance claims rising ? A house was insured in the eighty's for $40,000- 50,000 now days $400,000

                    The town of Arborfield has had serious flooding 2010-2015 but it also had flooding in the 1950's and likely many other years before that. Think about that for a moment?

                    How much Ag drainage was done before the 1950?

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                      #70
                      I consider myself to be an open minded middle of the road person. Most Canadians I think are that way. I also like most Canadians like to think we are aware of world issues and look at both sides or sell jobs. Increasingly it’s becoming just that a sell job. Like two religions trying to get your dollar at next Sunday’s sermon. This carbon tax has the optics of money grab with consequences to make it increasingly difficult to live and make a living on the prairies. Why would anybody want to live here if the cost of living is already high and work becomes sparse. I will not go down the conspiracy rabbit hole but if the carbon tax comes to full strength there will be a shift in living pattern further to the cities. If you don’t have a damn good reason to live here you won’t. It’s been gradually happening since the depression but this will only speed up the trend. History has taught us that the government picking winners and losers doesn’t work. The idea that people are taxed on their carbon consumption to have it redistributed and called revenue neutral is an oxymoron in itself. Our country is not creating wealth like it once has relative to what the country is spending. I feel however well intentioned the supporters of this tax are in reality these monies will fund broken socialist wet dream economy. Honestly I don’t think the carbon tax will break me but it’s the young couple in the acreage down the road working in the oilfield or the guy at the local supply store and his employees who go under cause the last few years have been tough, and there are only so many who can be “retrained” for “green” jobs.
                      Now Chuck, at the end of the day don’t you ever think about the human element and the ramifications these policies will have on the people in the near term. I know you will say oh it’s for the good of the planet. I get that. But consider the next 5 to 10 years. The unemployment, our industries decimated by foreign competition, potential civil unrest, rural desertification, soil loss, poverty. If these taxes and policies are not enacted properly what is your solution to the unrest that follows that will eclipse climate change? I do not reject green power alternatives and being environmentally efficient. In the long term I think it makes economic sense. But please Chuck answer me what will you do about the near term pain.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by burnt View Post
                        There appears to be a strong and continued movement away from left-wing extremism of chuckchuck's type, Brazil being the latest to correct its wayward course:

                        https://nationalpost.com/news/world/brazil-elects-far-right-president-worrying-rights-groups?video_autoplay=true https://nationalpost.com/news/world/brazil-elects-far-right-president-worrying-rights-groups?video_autoplay=true

                        The political conditions in Brazil appear to mirror what is happening here.

                        The people will put up with being fed leftist crap and corruption for only so long before they kick it to the curb like an overripe horse bun.
                        Very interesting.
                        The CBC and federal Liberals are very mad that the majority of Brazil voted for this party.

                        If they are mad this new president of Brazil must have good attributes to offer. 👍🏻

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
                          Very interesting.
                          The CBC and federal Liberals are very mad that the majority of Brazil voted for this party.

                          If they are mad this new president of Brazil must have good attributes to offer. 👍🏻
                          Found it! Liberal leftist SOB's losing another country... CBC too...
                          "Bolsonaro has repeatedly said he would pull Brazil from the Paris agreement on climate change, though last week he backed off on that. He has also promised to cut environmental regulations and make Brazil friendlier to international investors."

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by seldomseen View Post
                            My god Chucky! Do you even believe the crap you spew?

                            More flooding from 2010-2013 than all the eighty's? Weren't the eighty's drought?

                            Insurance claims rising ? A house was insured in the eighty's for $40,000- 50,000 now days $400,000

                            The town of Arborfield has had serious flooding 2010-2015 but it also had flooding in the 1950's and likely many other years before that. Think about that for a moment?

                            How much Ag drainage was done before the 1950?
                            I think chuck and others like him ,realize the gig is up and are desperately trying to hang onto their revenue source that came from the global warming scam
                            Thank Christ canada, and the world are coming out their coma on this crock of shit scam that has cost the world trillions and acclomplished sfa other than making millionaires out of fraudsters like gore and suzuki

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by macdon02 View Post
                              What a shame
                              Nobel peace prize committee should be ashamed
                              They should have to answer for this

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                                #75
                                Oh come on people, the Saint Irena Sendler only saved 2500 lives...

                                The God, Al Gore is saving humanity....one dollar at a time!

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