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    #13
    Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
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    "England, France, Belgium, every mid east and African country, .....countries with gun grabbing governments seem to be getting hit hard!"

    I didn't realize that Pittsburgh was located in above mention countries where 11 Jews were gunned down.

    So if what your saying is true why did it happen in the USA where the current government is not gun grabbing?
    There is a gun ban in Baltimore is there not ?????

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      #14
      So what was this guy hunting with his glock and AR15.
      Legal guns for most part it seems.

      Apparently it was not much of a ban, as he had 21 weapons.
      And sure an armed guard would have stopped it.
      Guess who the first target would
      Be..the guard.
      Then every synagogue , black church, theater ,school. Country music festival,store, on and on should have an armed guard.

      And we know how much good the armed guard would have been at the music festival.
      That said , now you have armed
      Guards at any gathering of 5 or more people.

      Do not move too fast ,or take. Anything out of your pocket.
      Because we know how highly trained. And intelligent the guards
      Will be.
      Folks that did not make the cut to work at wall mart.
      And how many of these new guards , just happen to
      Think like the last 2 nutjobs
      Sure make sure they have guns too.
      Give their kids something to play with at night.

      Or like the trained guard at the school
      In Florida. And run the other way.
      Not stupid
      He was sure as hell not getting shot that day,was he.
      These shooters may not be that bright, but bright enough to start
      Shooting when the people come outside. To the parking lot.

      Allow hunters to have shotguns, rifles.

      But stop giving all this killing power to every crazy loon.
      That has never even seen a duck or a deer.
      Last edited by sawfly1; Oct 29, 2018, 02:14.

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        #15
        It seems there are so many weapons down there.
        That you will never get that cat back in the bag.

        But it seems like they buy em new and legal.
        At least take that option away.
        Seems to work in the UK Japan, Australia.
        They hardly kill anybody there.
        Without the weapons ,3 terrorists in England manage to kill 3-5? With a van. This lone guy gets 11 and 4 injured.
        Last edited by sawfly1; Oct 29, 2018, 02:34.

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          #16
          The killings in Pittsburgh were due to anti-semitism.
          There have been similar examples of these in France and Belgium and other countries......with tight gun control but magically the terrorists always were armed with AK-47’s, etc.

          Jewish synagogues unfortunately need security due to all the hatred......just wait until Trudeau brings back some of his ISIS terrorist buddies to Canada.

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            #17
            You have to be really out of touch to ignore the scale and frequency of mass shootings in the US. They may happen elsewhere in the developed world but not at the level they do in the good ol USA.

            Many get tough on crime advocates seem to be very soft on the idea that less guns and tighter controls on assault weapons and hand guns would help reduce crime or mass shootings.

            Arming everyone so that that they can protect themselves or their synagogues, churches, schools, daycares, music festivals, nightclubs, is just a way for the gun industry to sell more guns. It will not make people safer.

            If Trump really believes more guns will make Americans safer then he should allow all citizens to bring guns to his rallies.

            Assault rifles, bump stocks, automatics, massive magazines and hand guns are not needed for hunting.
            Last edited by chuckChuck; Oct 29, 2018, 11:12.

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              #18
              In Switzerland, one in four people has a government - issued rifle. There has not been a mass shooting since 2001 and a virtually zero homocide rate. Boys, between the age of 13-17 go to target practice. More guns and almost no violent gun crimes. Yet USA, nutcases are able to buy many guns and go on shooting rampages, weird.

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                #19
                Bump stocks and full autos are already illegal or tightly regulated down there. Assault rifle can be a murky term just like global warming was. A hunting handgun will never be used in a mass shooting.
                Agreed on hi cap mags.
                We fixate on an American problem while selling more laws to our own.
                And we think we can legislate isolation from it.
                While selling fear to the weak.
                This is not happening in Canada.
                We don't need more laws.
                Educate yourself before you write one for me.
                I'm guessing glyphosate kills more Canadians than handguns and so called assualt rifles. Bahaha.


                Take every firearm and use them for ass mints if you will. I can live without.
                Organized crime will still have them.
                Maybe not the whackjobs is all.
                Consider yet again if you will please.
                We can't keep out smuggled cigarettes...........

                Now take off your footed pajamas and worry about something important.

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                  #20
                  It's not guns or the availability of firearms that makes people commit mass shootings. The question should be what is the reason people,are lashing out. Why are they feeling marginalized and disenfranchised? Gun crimes like these are symptom of something but what?

                  One thing evident is that more the left screams for gun bans, the more shootings there are. The more Trump promotes a more armed America the more emboldened fringe alt right groups become.

                  The US system is fractured. Maybe beyond repair. In a few years, white people will be a minority in the US. Will the SHTF then? If hate is growing now, it will be a bumper crop by 2035.

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
                    It's not guns or the availability of firearms that makes people commit mass shootings. The question should be what is the reason people,are lashing out. Why are they feeling marginalized and disenfranchised? Gun crimes like these are symptom of something but what?

                    One thing evident is that more the left screams for gun bans, the more shootings there are. The more Trump promotes a more armed America the more emboldened fringe alt right groups become.

                    The US system is fractured. Maybe beyond repair. In a few years, white people will be a minority in the US. Will the SHTF then? If hate is growing now, it will be a bumper crop by 2035.
                    The violent history and culture of the US, the racism and bigotry, the growing inequality, the decline of good blue collar jobs, a dysfunctional and very expensive health care system, all lead to people who are worse off and looking to blame someone.

                    Their political system is corrupted by big money and not very democratic and they purposely make it hard for minorities and marginalized citizens to get registered to vote.

                    Their screening for gun purchasers is very weak or non-existent and leads to violent people with mental problems owning large numbers of guns.

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by Braveheart View Post
                      It's not guns or the availability of firearms that makes people commit mass shootings. The question should be what is the reason people,are lashing out. Why are they feeling marginalized and disenfranchised? Gun crimes like these are symptom of something but what?

                      One thing evident is that more the left screams for gun bans, the more shootings there are. The more Trump promotes a more armed America the more emboldened fringe alt right groups become.

                      The US system is fractured. Maybe beyond repair. In a few years, white people will be a minority in the US. Will the SHTF then? If hate is growing now, it will be a bumper crop by 2035.
                      Is that a problem white people are a minority?please explain.

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                        #23
                        If you are a white person living on the outer margins of society, maybe lower middle class and you find yourself unemployed or otherwise crowded out what will your reaction be? Consider it from someone's viewpoint who for generations has had "the power". Especially put yourself in the southern US (excluding Texas).

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                          #24
                          I know a handful of people from Switzerland. The all took their army rifles home. Easily mobilized militia.but just imagine a country with assault rifles (whatever an assault rifle is ha) behind a lot of bedroom doors. Mass shootings seem non existent. What's different?

                          It's interesting how the left and Fascists both favour gun bans. Guess both have lots to fear from unhappy citizens.

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