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    #21
    I just don't get how some don't study the history of West.

    Land goes up and drops on problems, land goes up and drops on Drought,

    Land goes up on Speculators.

    Land does drop and has since 1900.

    Don't fool yourself it does.

    This time the drop won't be as drastic but it will happen.

    Most speculators buy at lower end then get to flip on way up and some get out some get caught but the ones who usually get caught are the farmers that buy at the peak.

    High interest takes out farms always has and always will.

    This time we have Dairy guys out of Ontario that are leaving the business and Hutts in Alberta that have to split and expand. The Values will drop for a bit but these two groups will buy the Speculators and guys who got hit at the top.

    Look at Vancouver housing prices. It's not going up any more actually going down to a point but if interest rates keep going up sooner or later the owner of the property decides its time to exit.

    Farmland is no different.

    Our area peaked then dropped and now has levelled out with virtually very few sales.

    Why? We had three to four big dogs that did pack it in after a few bad crops and one large landowner that bought low left at the high. Other big dogs just stopped buying.

    It happens.

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      #22
      Yes when we get to the point where expected appreciation and revenue are lower or equal to interest rates or grain falls then land may go down some.
      It will then depend on whether there is another oil boom or bust or such things as Chinese and other countries wanting land not just for production but for immigration (something I can't believe hasn't been investigated here in sask it happenned in bc and people were charged).
      How people do forget for many years the only thing keeping many farms going was imcome off of oil industry.

      Right now land is still appreciating in some cases 10% a year besides the rental revenue. Interest rates or investment returns in the bank need to
      Be 15% to shift things. That's besides the fact if things in the world get shitty what's among the first thing people want to
      Own? And is your money safe in the bank during shitty times?
      We re talking about this moment in time not tomorrow.

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        #23
        Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
        modern farming methods have narrowed the "light" land to "heavy" land gap.
        Never been a more true statement. Lighter land even poor land now has the same chance to produce as the heaviest land. The usual guys on here will laugh at that but I see it all the time. And yes land is like anything else, its value fluctuates but if you think your going to buy a quarter section of land for a 100,000 again, even for pasture, good luck. Look at what your happy to pay for every other thing that you need, want or collect. Spending 10,000 on a vacation is nothing these days.

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          #24
          Originally posted by sk_wheatking View Post
          It gets sickening on here with the land is going to crash threads. No other business Hope's for a disaster on their biggest asset's. But hey I'll take a new 1 ton diesel for a hundred grand and a new sled for 16,000. What a great deal. Wake the **** up already.
          This site is literally as bad as the local useless farmers at the coffee shop. I used to check this site everyday. Lucky if it’s once a week now.

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            #25
            As long as the return is greater then cost of ownership/ interest rates + taxes, and the loonie continues its slide from 2012, land will continue to rise. I believe we've seen the bottom in grain prices. I'm bullish land prices.

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              #26
              Originally posted by vvalk View Post
              This site is literally as bad as the local useless farmers at the coffee shop. I used to check this site everyday. Lucky if it’s once a week now.
              Make use of the ignore feature. You don't have to abandon AV because of other people. Unless everyone here is an irritant for you.

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                #27
                Originally posted by vvalk View Post
                This site is literally as bad as the local useless farmers at the coffee shop. I used to check this site everyday. Lucky if it’s once a week now.
                Wow couldn't have said it better myself.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
                  Yes when we get to the point where expected appreciation and revenue are lower or equal to interest rates or grain falls then land may go down some.
                  It will then depend on whether there is another oil boom or bust or such things as Chinese and other countries wanting land not just for production but for immigration (something I can't believe hasn't been investigated here in sask it happenned in bc and people were charged).
                  How people do forget for many years the only thing keeping many farms going was imcome off of oil industry.

                  Right now land is still appreciating in some cases 10% a year besides the rental revenue. Interest rates or investment returns in the bank need to
                  Be 15% to shift things. That's besides the fact if things in the world get shitty what's among the first thing people want to
                  Own? And is your money safe in the bank during shitty times?
                  We re talking about this moment in time not tomorrow.
                  On your comment about "safe in a bank" whats your thoughts on Stats Can getting all your transactions from your bank?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by vvalk View Post
                    This site is literally as bad as the local useless farmers at the coffee shop. I used to check this site everyday. Lucky if it’s once a week now.
                    I just realized.....maybe your talking about me....oh well.

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                      #30
                      In the depression, Canada was not a major world supplier and only had one crop and real ag teach yet.

                      In the 1980s, that crash was due to a confluence of events in the financial markets.

                      I think the business is more resilient now even if there are less farmers.

                      I have 2 neighbors who have aggressively expanded recently buying $4000 per ac land and paying a premium on rent to knock some long terms guys off some rented land.

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