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    #31
    Originally posted by macdon02 View Post
    This is ****ed. If your of age yoy have several years left before the finish line you have to ask yourself where is this industry headed? If your close to the finish line you have ask if you want all your retirement eggs in 1 basket. We got govt hunting for taxes, fingers in our bank accounts, suppliers that are trying to get a bigger cut off the host. Bring the reset with crash and burn. It's time to reassess the business model and make changes. When's bigger no longer better? NOW!
    What is ****ed is those that defend the new policy....in the name of success...

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      #32
      I do value your input vvalk. The other side of factual reality, but

      So if we throw everything we have into plant breeding, varieties, strong local breeding/seed growing industry isn’t the “Canadian Seed Trade Ass.” Going to take them, and promote them in competing exporter nations to compete against us anyways?

      Really the breeders think they can police this and collect in Russia, or other Nations competing with canada growing the same crops/varieties? How is this different than a carbon tax?

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        #33
        The Ag Industry sees the Primary Producer as a ****en money tree, careful not to pluck off
        all it's leaves and kill it.

        Just once I'd like to see them tighten their belts, hordes of grad students getting paid to do useless shit, excessive advertising, bloated bureaucracies run like government...always increasing the "tax" on farmers. Wining and dining big retailers where a farmer can't even pay with a credit card to earn 1-2% points in CC purchases(unless you want to pay more for the product for that "luxury").

        And then that feel good "Ag more than ever" campaign...where a whole Industry is built on the risk taken and real work done by so few. Like I said before, I'm getting tired of being the host to the parasite party.

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          #34
          Is it possible there is now a terminator gene that the breeders will insert to actively police the variety, breeding royalty system proposed?

          That ata still the pot

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            #35
            I was thinking about that too Rareearth.

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              #36
              That's what the scientists/breeders are paid for....

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                #37
                Originally posted by macdon02 View Post
                This is ****ed. If your of age yoy have several years left before the finish line you have to ask yourself where is this industry headed? If your close to the finish line you have ask if you want all your retirement eggs in 1 basket. We got govt hunting for taxes, fingers in our bank accounts, suppliers that are trying to get a bigger cut off the host. Bring the reset with crash and burn. It's time to reassess the business model and make changes. When's bigger no longer better? NOW!
                ......think Nutrien. Is it a coincidence we are paying nearly 25% more for fert this fall? Is there really any meaningful competition? Or should I use the other "C" word, COLLUSION?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
                  ......think Nutrien. Is it a coincidence we are paying nearly 25% more for fert this fall? Is there really any meaningful competition? Or should I use the other "C" word, COLLUSION?
                  Thank Brad Wall for that ....how he saved potash from BHP only to allow the sale for less....

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
                    The Ag Industry sees the Primary Producer as a ****en money tree, careful not to pluck off
                    all it's leaves and kill it.

                    Just once I'd like to see them tighten their belts, hordes of grad students getting paid to do useless shit, excessive advertising, bloated bureaucracies run like government...always increasing the "tax" on farmers. Wining and dining big retailers where a farmer can't even pay with a credit card to earn 1-2% points in CC purchases(unless you want to pay more for the product for that "luxury").

                    And then that feel good "Ag more than ever" campaign...where a whole Industry is built on the risk taken and real work done by so few. Like I said before, I'm getting tired of being the host to the parasite party.
                    Well said and I’m fairly certain 95% of producers would be in agreement with you. The other 5% likely have ties to the seed industry or investments in a retail outlet.

                    Plant Breeder Rights and charging extra seed “fees” are a category where the opposition will be extremely strong. If a group doesn’t recognize this they clearly aren’t representing the best interests of producers.

                    The same logic lies with a carbon tax.....if a group doesn’t recognize this they clearly aren’t representing the best interests of producers.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
                      Well said and I’m fairly certain 95% of producers would be in agreement with you. The other 5% likely have ties to the seed industry or investments in a retail outlet.

                      Plant Breeder Rights and charging extra seed “fees” are a category where the opposition will be extremely strong. If a group doesn’t recognize this they clearly aren’t representing the best interests of producers.

                      The same logic lies with a carbon tax.....if a group doesn’t recognize this they clearly aren’t representing the best interests of producers.

                      And therein lies the rise of populism .....when the peasants can't take it anymore. ...something the elite/successful farmer directors that use their own money for meetings..cough....don't understand after they lose touch with guys that are trying to make a living without all this bullshit. ...

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