No wheat for you!!!!!!

[sumdumguy]

It amazes me how long weed seeds live underground. An exhuberant foreigner came into our district, bought about 6 sections of conventional lentil gumbo. He made the leap to organic on some of his land. It’s a wondrous sight! That’sall I will say. It’s a guaranteed winner. 😆

[AlbertaFarmer5]

So how many consecutive years of continuous watching will it take for you to make up your mind? Opportunity is knocking now. Are you afraid of going to "organic no till hell" if you have to till a bit for some reason? There's that many soil types, microclimates etc across the country, you'll eventually have to rely on the AlbertaFarmer5 institute for guidance. The holy grail is to produce healthy marketable food from a carbon sequestering system. Its a calculated risk always. There is a riskier transition period. Sounds like until someone can prove what you want to see your quite happy defending the status quo. I have to mention Gabe Brown. He is quite successful, don't know if he may need to till a field or not at some point but if he does, so be it. And he openly admits that he will use a pesticide if deemed necessary which is very rare. He is not certified organic and doesn't want to be. He makes the rules and doesn't want to be restricted in any way for the sake of fitting into someone else's definition. He sells his produce for a premium nonetheless. Don't go "organic" if the perceived stigma scares you but if your current farming style is building soil carbon you're winning anyway.

https://biogrowers.com.au/our-story/

Ian and Di Haggerty are trailblazers known worldwide. They farm east of Perth, and are taking over several of their failing conventional neighbors.

I already made up my mind, thanks for asking. I've spoken with Gabe Brown, talked to many organic producers across western Canada, and their producer organisations, bought books from Rodale institute amongst others. But in the end, Hobby's dire warnings have saved me from a fate worse than death.

I fully respect and admire Gabe Brown's model, but have no desire to direct market anything, I'm not a people person, and my conscience doesn't allow me to lie outright about the purported benefits that cannot be proven. And direct marketing is the only way to obtain any premiums outside of the official organic designation. Not a people person, I disagree with some of the arbitrary restrictions under organic. Specifically GMO, as an example, right now Alberta researchers are developing cereals capable of supporting nitrogen fixation, this is a technology that should be fully embraced by organic, but they have built their marketing machine railing against GMO of any kind.

The AlbertaFarmer5 institute did a study last year on transitioning to organic, and proved that tillage instead of preseed glyphosate + excess rain immediately afterwards+no rain all season = crop failure, whereas no till with preseed burndown + excess rain immediately after + no rain all season = tremendous crop.

If you want to market my products as chemical residue free, and obtain a premium for this I am all for it, that model is very workable and sustainable, and is what most customers want. Not one extreme or the other.

[GDR]

I already made up my mind, thanks for asking. I've spoken with Gabe Brown, talked to many organic producers across western Canada, and their producer organisations, bought books from Rodale institute amongst others. But in the end, Hobby's dire warnings have saved me from a fate worse than death.

I fully respect and admire Gabe Brown's model, but have no desire to direct market anything, I'm not a people person, and my conscience doesn't allow me to lie outright about the purported benefits that cannot be proven. And direct marketing is the only way to obtain any premiums outside of the official organic designation. Not a people person, I disagree with some of the arbitrary restrictions under organic. Specifically GMO, as an example, right now Alberta researchers are developing cereals capable of supporting nitrogen fixation, this is a technology that should be fully embraced by organic, but they have built their marketing machine railing against GMO of any kind.

The AlbertaFarmer5 institute did a study last year on transitioning to organic, and proved that tillage instead of preseed glyphosate + excess rain immediately afterwards+no rain all season = crop failure, whereas no till with preseed burndown + excess rain immediately after + no rain all season = tremendous crop.

If you want to market my products as chemical residue free, and obtain a premium for this I am all for it, that model is very workable and sustainable, and is what most customers want. Not one extreme or the other.

Agree!