Prof downplays carbon tax’s farm impact

[SASKFARMER3]

Oh, Chucky "finds another site and spew your propaganda".

Who the F#$K spews bullshit but you and this bullshit Climate change fricking Carbon Tax that just is a Tax.

Buy another solar panel for your acreage and tell me how well it has done the last week without the sun shining. Plus wait till its min 45 how well electric heat is working for you. Let's sit and hibernate under the covers or actually stay in the 21St century and live a wonderful life.

[chuckChuck]

Dismiss and deny! No substance, all crude partisan vitriol.

[chuckChuck]

Oh, Chucky "finds another site and spew your propaganda".

Who the F#$K spews bullshit but you and this bullshit Climate change fricking Carbon Tax that just is a Tax.

Buy another solar panel for your acreage and tell me how well it has done the last week without the sun shining. Plus wait till its min 45 how well electric heat is working for you. Let's sit and hibernate under the covers or actually stay in the 21St century and live a wonderful life.

Say something intelligent once and see how it feels?

[furrowtickler]

Tier 4 lowers nitrous oxide down to sweet tweet.
What to locomotives use for emission? Probably not much

Agreed , so where do we emit massive amounts of nitrous oxide and methane ?
It’s easy to throw up numbers but where do they come from off the crop land production??
You cut and pasted a lot of nothing chuck.

[chuckChuck]

Agreed , so where do we emit massive amounts of nitrous oxide and methane ?
It’s easy to throw up numbers but where do they come from off the crop land production??
You cut and pasted a lot of nothing chuck.

Livestock = methane
Nitrogen fertilizer = nitrous oxide (N2O)

[chuckChuck]

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/fertilizer-produces-far-more-greenhouse-gas-expected

"With an overload of fertilizer, soil microbes on farms may belch unexpectedly high levels of nitrous oxide, a greenhouse gas with 300 times as much heat-trapping power as carbon dioxide. The finding may help explain why agricultural nitrous oxide emissions are much higher than some scientists had predicted and could give clues for how to curb farm pollution.

Soil microbes have long been known to convert nitrogen-rich crop fertilizers, including manure and synthetic fertilizers, into nitrous oxide. After more than 1,000 field experiments, climate scientists calculated in the mid-2000s that the dirt dwellers spew about one kilogram of the greenhouse gas for every 100 kilograms of fertilizer, or roughly 1 percent. Researchers generally thought that emissions would scale up linearly: doubling fertilizer would double the emissions of gas.

But the predictions didn’t match up with real-world numbers. Estimating regional and global fluxes of atmospheric nitrous oxide levels a few years ago, researchers pegged the microbial conversion of fertilizer to gas at somewhere between 1.75 and 5 percent. Either the initial calculations were off or there were unknown sources of nitrous oxide, says biogeochemist Phil Robertson of Michigan State University in East Lansing. The latter was unlikely, he adds."

[furrowtickler]

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/fertilizer-produces-far-more-greenhouse-gas-expected

"With an overload of fertilizer, soil microbes on farms may belch unexpectedly high levels of nitrous oxide, a greenhouse gas with 300 times as much heat-trapping power as carbon dioxide. The finding may help explain why agricultural nitrous oxide emissions are much higher than some scientists had predicted and could give clues for how to curb farm pollution.

Soil microbes have long been known to convert nitrogen-rich crop fertilizers, including manure and synthetic fertilizers, into nitrous oxide. After more than 1,000 field experiments, climate scientists calculated in the mid-2000s that the dirt dwellers spew about one kilogram of the greenhouse gas for every 100 kilograms of fertilizer, or roughly 1 percent. Researchers generally thought that emissions would scale up linearly: doubling fertilizer would double the emissions of gas.

But the predictions didn’t match up with real-world numbers. Estimating regional and global fluxes of atmospheric nitrous oxide levels a few years ago, researchers pegged the microbial conversion of fertilizer to gas at somewhere between 1.75 and 5 percent. Either the initial calculations were off or there were unknown sources of nitrous oxide, says biogeochemist Phil Robertson of Michigan State University in East Lansing. The latter was unlikely, he adds."

Any tests done on Nitrogen treated with N stabilizers ?
Those are out of date tests done of fertilizer not treated .

[furrowtickler]

Livestock = methane
Nitrogen fertilizer = nitrous oxide (N2O)

I will let grassfarmer tackle the massive amount of methane issue from his livestock .
Your N2O info and data is out of date .
A lot of things have changed in the fertilizer industry the past few years .

[SASKFARMER3]

Chuck, you're hilarious.

You come on here and preach about the great Carbon tax.

Well maybe your acreage is doing great and you later after the next election can burn your I love Trudeau sign to heat your shack.

But the reality is you have no clue.

Yes like furrow says the test you cut and paste is out of date.

Most use a nitrogen stabilizer or slow release on most fert.

We direct seed since the early 80s so have done our part. We only work when necessary and min amount of Chem to control weeds like years ago.

So yea farmers did there part.

Now in a shitty year try drying grain with Solar or Wind. Won't work.

You dream in tec colour.

Cut your grass, run range fed chickens and make sure you sweep your solar panel off and cuddle like its 1928 to stay warm in winter.

When no one in the world is changing why would we give up oil in Canada.

Yea France is so happy with all the bullshit taxes.

Google it could be your friend to learn some things.

[furrowtickler]

Looks like you thought you were well prepared for you Sunday climate preaching .. lol
That’s a lot of useless info to come up with on short notice 🤔

[chuckChuck]

Looks like you thought you were well prepared for you Sunday climate preaching .. lol
That’s a lot of useless info to come up with on short notice 🤔

So whats the numbers, where are we at on nitrous oxide emissions currently? How much has new tech reduced NO2 emmisions?

[furrowtickler]

So whats the numbers, where are we at on nitrous oxide emissions currently? How much has new tech reduced NO2 emmisions?

If your not using N stabilizers, there is no “we” in this conversation.
I will get the reduction numbers when I have time . Got other things to do now on a Sunday with my family.
Thanks for all the 10-20 year old data though lol .