Commodities VS Products

[cowman]

I believe the science says these hormones are completely safe and occur in such small traces that they are harmless. I have seen charts that show broccoli contains higher hormone levels than found in cattle.
Having said all that I will admit I stopped using hormone implants in the early nineties. Without a doubt they worked and I was using about the mildest one available! Synovex C.
My problem with them was the little steer calves tended to look like bodybuilders and the heifer calves all became sexually active at about 3-400 lbs. In fact the little steers were extremely "sexual"! Acted like a bunch of young bulls!
I just decided this was not very natural and I also got sick of having little heifers getting bred!
But I estimate the one implant probably added about 30 lbs. of weight...not bad for a $1.25 implant!
Of course my loss is someone elses gain as the calves would get an implant as soon as they hit the feedlot anyway! But for me it is something I don't want to deal with.
Oh and by the way I've never seen the brocolli trying to ride everything in the produce section! lol

[TOM4CWB]

Cowman;

The EU may have a point on growth hormones... it is not like meat will stop people from starving in the third world.

Take a look at this:

http://www.newfarm.org/news/0104/010904/cloned_cow.shtml

"BLACKSBURG, Virginia, January 8, 2004 (ENS): The scientist who cloned Dolly, the world's first cloned sheep, is now working to clone cattle that are genetically incapable of developing mad cow disease.
As government officials try to limit the economic and health risks related to the nation's first case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), or mad cow disease, found in December 2003, researchers in the Virginia-Maryland Regional College of Veterinary Medicine (VMRCVM) at Virginia Tech are attempting to genetically engineer their way to a BSE free cow.

Associate professor Will Eyestone, who heads the VMRCVM's transgenic animal research program, is the molecular reproductive biologist who was senior research scientist for PPL The****utics, the organization that cloned Dolly.

Together with Bill Huckle, associate professor of biomedical science, Eyestone is using the same somatic cell transfer technology that PPL used to create Dolly and Mr. Jefferson, the first cloned calf to to clone a cow without normal prions."

I wonder what will be next.

Can't we just stop feeding our meat animals dead animals?

[parsley]

Cowman, We never used implants, so never observed first hand.

CNN reported a couple of weeks ago about doctors reporting that humans are starting to cycle at 8 years of age. Not just one or two cases either.

Maybe there is no link at all with growth harmones, but these are questions that the consumer wants addressed, that a cowmen had better be prepared to answer if he wants to keep market share.

Parsley

[cowman]

You know parsley, what can you do? The money in cattle is so poor a lot of guys need to squeeze out every buck. Now old buggers like me might not need to squeeze that nickel til it squeaks but then we are in the minority!
I just decided to hell with this! It is unnatural and it isn't right. So I gave up the extra $30 or $40 I might have made...fully knowing it wouldn't change one bloody thing. I guess I share TOMs philosophy...I believe there is more to this life than what happens here and we will be held accountable some day!

[TOM4CWB]

Cowman;

Being blessed is an interesting process.

If we give... we will recieve... pressed down and overflowing...

Standing on principal for what is just and right... and having the faith and self-control to obey principals of faith... is where blessings come from.

On this Hour has 22 Minutes is saw Goodale get a blast... which was meant in Jest by the 22 minute authors...

But;

There was some real truth behind what was said!

Goodale was at the Chamber of Commerce in Regina... and the report had Goodale blame Jean Chretien for something like this:

Mad Cow;
West Nile Virus;
Grasshoppers;
Drought;
Flood;
Ice Storm;
Trade Actions.

Brings to mind...

If my people who are called by my name would humble themselves... pray, and turn from their wicked ways, I will heal their land.

Guess what Chretien means Cowman?

If you guessed "Christian" you would be right... and I am told Jean means Chosen One. The PM's Office outlawed the use of the Name Jesus Christ... in armed forces chaplain's srvices for both the Swiss Air Disaster and 9-11 services.

Why do I bring this up?

Producing food for a hungry world... is much more easily accomplished if we are being blessed... rather than when we are under a curse!

AND it sure looks like the past couple of years fit into "being cursed" for many farms in Canada!

This is fitting that we talk of these issues on this topic;

Commodities VS Products ... because we grow special food products to bless the people who will eat it!

Not Commodities to get try to get rich!

But then I am Just a stupid farmer... who has never "marketed" any grain in his life... so said the CWB to me...

Do I make any sense Cowman?

[parsley]

cowman, I've needled for blackleg, and dragged them through showrings, and been charged by old cows you'd think were dead until they got their head up, and given whiskey by syringe to half-frozen calves in the middle of a January blizzard. But the old sonsaguns paid for the farm while the "final payments" couldn't, that's for sure.

Makes you wonder how Argentina used to tax agriculture to pay for their other industries! And they did.

I know this...Canadians love beef and barb-b-quing, including me. And every cowboy should put their heads together and decide the best way to 1. produce the kind of beef in demand and 2. promote the fact we're doing it.

Tie up every bloody government inspection man so he can't have any input. They are the ones who are responsible to seeing that the rules aren't being jiggled, and they are the root cause of the problems we're having with a jittery market.

If your're going to the Barley Growers meeting in Calgary next month, we'll have to indulge in a syringe full or two, strictly medicinal of course, and talk about it

Parsley

[TOM4CWB]

Cowman;

I forgot:
SARS;
Terrorism

[parsley]

A snort or two at the convention would make you forget about them altogether, tom4CWB!

Parsley

[TOM4CWB]

Parsley;

OH to be young with plenty of spare brain cells... like you Parsley!

[cowman]

Well TOM I do understand that if you are producing food you do have a duty to make sure it is safe. We have let our governments decide what is safe and gone along with it...perhaps our trust was missplaced?
I am not some sort of treehugger or eco freak but I think sometimes things are getting out of hand. On the question of GM foods, I don't have a problem with Roundup ready canola or corn. They cleaned up a lot of weeds and Roundup is a pretty safe chemical. The thistle problem was getting out of hand and GM canola was a lifesaver. But I draw the line at animals.
I do believe we were put here to tend the garden and I do believe some day we'll all be judged on how well we did.
I quit growing grain about 15 years ago but I do have some crop land that I rent to my cousin on a crop share deal. He refuse to grow anything that he has to sell to the CWB and that is just fine with me! Canola, barley and CPS wheat.
I often wonder about the blessed and cursed thing. I do believe God has given us the abilities to cope with our problems and "blessings" or "curses" are mainly how we deal with them? I don't believe God ever said this world would be a rose garden? We are here not to just have a good time but as a test or a learning experience. And pain is the great teacher?
Parsley: Won't make it there but if I ever run into you we'll hoist a few! Unfortunately mine might have to be gingerale as I'm now a teetotaller...not out of choice, but necessity!

[TOM4CWB]

Cowman;

"Commodities VS Products ... because we grow special food products to bless the people who will eat it!"

The wisest man on earth (Solomon) said;

"The fear of God is the begining of knowledge, but fools (the morally deficient)despise wisdom and discipline (NIV Proverbs 1:7)"

"Do not plot harm against your neighbour, who lives trustfully near you.(3:29)

"To fear the Lord is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance,
evil behavior and perverse speach."(8:13)

"One man gives freely, yet gains even more;
another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty."(11:24)

"People curse the man who hoards grain,
but blessing crowns him who is willing to sell."(11:26)

"A [consistantly] righteous man regards the life of his beast,
but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel."(AMP 12:10)

Cowman:

"Blessed is the man who finds wisdom,
the man who gains understanding,
for she is more profitable than silver and yields better returns than gold.
She is more precious than rubies;
nothing you desire can compare with her.
Long life is in her right hand;
in her left hand are riches and honour.
Her ways are pleasant ways,
and all her paths are peace"(NIV Proverbs 3:13-17)

Bless you and have a great day!

[parsley]

Tom4CWB, you're getting a little too sermony for Commodity-Marketing. Get thee to the Spiritual Vignettes forum.

Parsley