New seed royalties

[bucket]

Maybe we will all have to go back to mixed farming, put as much grain as you can through animals , let them collect what comes from the endpoint of the livestock.

I think once they are done with the grain guys they will start a royalty scheme on livestock as well....just wait....


Buying purebred bull is the same as buying a new variety. ....not sure why we need royalties on grain...

[Rareearth]

If I have the pleasure to farm for 50 years, there is no way every year we have new varieties.

The risk of new, untested dudds, insect or disease susceptibility is not worth the risk or expense.

[Rareearth]

Sclerotinia
Anphomycies
Wheat midge
Seed pod weevils
Aphids
Root nematodes ( wait for it)
Etc

[walterm]

Still trying to figure out seed business. Do seed growers have to buy new registered seed every year to be able to sell product as certified?

[blueversi]

I think once they are done with the grain guys they will start a royalty scheme on livestock as well....just wait....


Buying purebred bull is the same as buying a new variety. ....not sure why we need royalties on grain...

Most likely, this industry is a shitshow at best and getting worse.

[Guest]

Anyone know if it is legal for grain cos to just take an automatic one percent dock on feed barley ?
One company does an actual dockage on our loads and it always .2 -.3 % . The other one just takes 1% . This is $45 we are losing every load ?
I bet it gets sold at other end with no dock , certainly doesnt get cleaned ?

[furrowtickler]

Anyone know if it is legal for grain cos to just take an automatic one percent dock on feed barley ?
One company does an actual dockage on our loads and it always .2 -.3 % . The other one just takes 1% . This is $45 we are losing every load ?
I bet it gets sold at other end with no dock , certainly doesnt get cleaned ?

Every elevator here doing the same , unless you call them on it and force them to do a dockage .

[grassfarmer]

Are we going to allow the seed synergy group to steam roll us? Where are our producer groups on this issue? not hearing much out of them.

I guess you weren't listening either when one producer group spelled out the dangers and implored farmers to make their views known - back in 2004
http://www.nfu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2005/12/uf_december_2004_january_2005.pdf http://https://www.nfu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2005/12/uf_december_2004_january_2005.pdf

and constantly since then including this from 2012
http://www.nfu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/NFU-Seeds-Factsheet-6.pdf http://https://www.nfu.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/NFU-Seeds-Factsheet-6.pdf

Time to face reality - most of you weren't paying attention when you had the chance to influence the outcome and must accept some responsibility for that. It's too little too late starting to complain now.

[sawfly1]

In my mind the method of collection is not the issue.
Our opportunity to use any off patent variety freely.
Without restriction. Is the issue.

Then seed breeders can charge whatever they want.
And collect it by whatever method.
And the market place will determine how much compensation, they receive. For the improvements they have
Made. Compared to off patent stuff

The problem arises , when the seed Co.s , or grain Co.s restrict.
Or eliminate the off patent choices.

The reason that there is only 10-15% range in canola seed prices..
When lower performing varieties should be available
At 40-50% cost of the best ones.

If that restricted choice market is what you want in the future.
For every crop.
Then just keep buying the BS

The seed growers are just another tool for the seed
Companies . And they are disposable too when it is all done.
As are public and grower breeding programs when the time is right.

[Rareearth]

If the CDC was for sale what would the price be?

That’s University of Saskatchewan Crop Development Center

[walterm]

Anyone know if it is legal for grain cos to just take an automatic one percent dock on feed barley ?
One company does an actual dockage on our loads and it always .2 -.3 % . The other one just takes 1% . This is $45 we are losing every load ?
I bet it gets sold at other end with no dock , certainly doesnt get cleaned ?

Dockage is recorded to the nearest.1%. As in Grain Guide and is the law.

[helmsdale]

Dockage is recorded to the nearest.1%. As in Grain Guide and is the law.

Unless you haul to my local... its 1.5% on cereals whether its there or not...