New seed royalties

[farmaholic]

Unless you haul to my local... its 1.5% on cereals whether its there or not...

"TOOKAGE" definition:

The difference between the actual dockage and what was taken above that amount.

[TOM4CWB]

BGMB....
we have been sidetracked I believe!!!

This seed royalty issue... is already 100% in the control of plant breeders/seedcos right now.[look at Canola and private varieties today] PBR is the law now... PERIOD. UPOV 78 and 91 gives PBR legal teeth.
We are being distracted... an easier more 'palatable' contractual system... is already enforceable...[Again PBR]
Seed Synergy... is [should be I maintain] really about the administrative cost... of maintaining varieties 'stock seed' distribution function... [Breeder seed [seed lots] till the variety is in commercial growers ownership for seed multiplication ] ... the 'value add'...for all farmers... should be about how to LOWER ADMINISTRATIVE COST TO INTRODUCE NEW VARIETIES and maintain genetic purity on present good varieties of planting seed. AGAIN... PLANT BREEDERS/Seed Co's HAVE EXISTING Plant Breeders Registration...PBR... LAW TO COLLECT... WHATEVER .... THEY CHOOSE [BREEDERS/Seed Co's]... THROUGH ... CONTRACTS [available to them NOW...IF THEY WANT] ...[just like canola and private varieties that require new planting seed each year]
WE SHOULD BE WORKING ON ... LOWERING OVERHEAD COSTS[TO COMMERCIAL GRAIN PRODUCTION ULTIMATELY... TO BECOME MORE COMPETITIVE... INTERNATIONALLY ON GLOBAL FRONT.
Cheers! Merry Christmas!!

Are we going to allow the seed synergy group to steam roll us? Where are our producer groups on this issue? not hearing much out of them.

I can't figure out why seed companies think they should get special treatment from the government. Seems like they want a legislated system to collect payments from farmers. What ever happened to the free market? There is absolutely nothing stopping a seed company from requiring royalty payments on saved seed with a contract or requiring that new seed be purchased every as is the case in Canola and Soybeans.

This BS would be like farmers demanding a checkoff from grain companies to fund research for our farms with the idea that grain companies need to support our R and D in order for us farmers to supply them with quality grain.

I am happy to pay for good wheat varieties but show me the goods first.

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As explained recently, synergy is another name for "collusion".

[TOM4CWB]

Checking,
I agree... the 'lack of clear vision' is troubling. The 700 member owners of Secan... which is a non-profit seed group... that has unrestricted membership by any Canadian farmer who needs clear transparent access to quality seeds.... is a good start to assure we move in a direction that seeks a profitable outcome for Canadian commercial farmers... who grow grain especially in Western Canada.

There are approximately 3500 seed [farmer]growers [CSGA members yearly registering] ...in Canada... the vast number of which desire a competitive efficient transparent Canadian seed system that produces best quality grain for global endusers who must provide high quality food tor a world that demands safe, nutritious food.
This is what we need to focus on... and be better equipped to provide.
Cheers!

As explained recently, synergy is another name for "collusion".

[walterm]

Checking,
I agree... the 'lack of clear vision' is troubling. The 700 member owners of Secan... which is a non-profit seed group... that has unrestricted membership by any Canadian farmer who needs clear transparent access to quality seeds.... is a good start to assure we move in a direction that seeks a profitable outcome for Canadian commercial farmers... who grow grain especially in Western Canada.

There are approximately 3500 seed [farmer]growers [CSGA members yearly registering] ...in Canada... the vast number of which desire a competitive efficient transparent Canadian seed system that produces best quality grain for global endusers who must provide high quality food tor a world that demands safe, nutritious food.
This is what we need to focus on... and be better equipped to provide.
Cheers!

Only 3500 seed growers and CGC and CSGA couldn't/wouldn't trace Triffid flax back to culprit that let it out? In fact I don't think all 3500 had access to original seed stock. Transparency should have started with the growers names that had that access and obviously caused all the problems.

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I am really interested in a valid answer to walters question ?

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Only 3500 seed growers and CGC and CSGA couldn't/wouldn't trace Triffid flax back to culprit that let it out? In fact I don't think all 3500 had access to original seed stock. Transparency should have started with the growers names that had that access and obviously caused all the problems.

The ****ers from the government didn't want to address responsibility that goes along with the royalty...

Lawyers have to be licking their lips when this goes through,,,,

The thing about the triffid flax issue is that it was never a commercial variety and the breeders made the mistake....plus it was supposed to have been cleansed out a decade before it showed up in Europe....****ers (read some seed growers) purposely ****ed up our markets....they are not farmers...

Just ****ing pisses me off...never got the market back and our competitors have infilled it...